#2570 - Mystery Boys

0:00The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Hey. So, hey fellas. Hey, man. What's up? So, what is this internet thing? Explain this to me. I didn't want to do it off the air. I think Jamie should explain it because it's out of my league. It's something to do with PHP certificates, some ability to counterfeit websites. You go into a website and it does some kind of check. And this thing is a massive security flaw that's existed, I think, for 14 years. Right, Jamie? Like 14 years. There's the I saw. So what I just saw this popping up yesterday online, like a bunch of warnings from a bunch of different Twitter accounts, including the FBI Cyber Division. Let's read this.

0:49FBI Cyber Division. Two critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP, a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications. These vulnerabilities, blah, blah, blah, could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code and PHP core potentially compromising sensitive data and networks FBI urges organizations to take the following steps now So it tells you all the things to stay to do too So we're fucked what's what's happening is AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists, and there'll be no more encryption. That's going to be gone. There's going to be no more passwords. Yeah. That'll be useless. Yeah. And it's going to get very squirrely because money is online.

1:35Haven't they already made that? I mean, that octopus scandal was all about that backdoor they put into everything way back when. What is the octopus scandal? Which one's that? You know, octopus. It's connected to FC and all them. It was like security scandal? Which one's that? You know, octopus. It's connected to FC and all them. It was like security software. You always do that. You know. I feel like you've had a guest or Adam talk about it. But not octopus. Have you heard of that before? Yeah, there's a whole documentary on Netflix about it. There you go. The octopus murders. Oh, the octopus murders. That's connected to that. Oh, okay. I watched one episode of that or the beginning of it.

2:05I didn't watch the whole. I heard it's fucking incredible. Yeah, the guy managed to slash both his. Like the way he committed suicide. Right. It's very suspicious. Like the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice. Yeah. That guy's fun. Did he shoot himself in the head twice? Twice. Twice. Like Gary. Whoopsies. Really? Like the guy. Like Gary Webb. Gary Webb did it twice. No, maybe the Enron guy did it. Maybe I'm the guy like Gary Webb. Well, I did it. No, maybe the end-run guy didn't it? Maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb. Well, the I might be in touch. Who's the one the Clintons they always That one's Vince Foster's that he was fucking weird one man, you know strange death of Vince Foster is a great book

2:40What's that? I read that book in like fuck. It was like we're early to that I think that guy was on Jimmy's show just recently and I didn't know that. And he was saying, no, the Clintons didn't do it. They took the blame for it, but no, it's some FBI-associated gang, trafficking gang that did it. He probably didn't want to go along with the thing that they're all into, you know? Well, perhaps. There's probably a bunch of factors, right? Because for sure, while Clinton was governor of Arkansas, that's when all that Barry Seale stuff was going on in Mena, Arkansas, where they're dropping off coke. So there's that. So there's that for sure, but then there's also that scheme that they were doing, that real estate

3:17scandal. It wasn't shot twice, but there's weird stuff about it. Oh, wait, I forgot to tell you the most... So, Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head twice, right? Vince Foster, this is the thing that blew my mind. And Jimmy has sat on this for a year because he thought it sounded too far out. There's an interview, and I couldn't believe it when I saw it. The guy, when he was researching, there was a reporter that was like a supposed, like how I consider Ben Swan to be a good guy reporter, supposedly like that. But he wasn't. He was a piece of shit helping cover it up, according to this guy. And that guy's name, that reporter, was Chris Ruddy, who's now the guy who runs Newsmax. Wow.

3:53He's a billionaire now. Wow. That's what this guy said. How did he become a billionaire? Proving and whatever. How did a news reporter become a billionaire? I'm sure legitimately. I'm sure there's nothing I don't want to be I get pegged as one of these conspiracy guys which I'm not not at all so it was the Whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in so there was a lot going down with that and then they found him dead but there was more blood missing from his body than was at the scene of the crime his body clearly had been moved also the gun was in his I wrote this motherfucker wrote the book he's in on the cover-up that guy was telling us amazing that's amazing because that book

4:38is real so now I have to rethink everything that I read in that book I think that interview dude you should watch because that guy was really fascinating. And I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time. Well, it's like what they always say Trump is doing. He's doing 4D chess. Like these guys are like some people are. But just not in your favor, idiots. Right. Yeah. He's doing 4D chess where he tells you everything. Remember he came on here and he was like sounding pretty good. And then immediately rug pulled everyone. Like how long did that take? The rug pull of Trump, would you say? How long before we had a war in Iran? The war in Iran was what, a year? Yeah, he waited a year.

5:14Well, then we have the stupid war on drug, narco terror, which is always fake. Anybody talking about that, it's a fucking lying phony. So the Department of War, the guy who's got all the brill cream in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoos. War, the guy who's got all the Brylcreem in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoos. Hegseth. That's right. He's got his name. Yeah, Hegseth. So that, but you think the war on drugs is fake? Like when they're blowing up those, what do you think is going on? Well, I think most of them are probably marijuana guys not even going to America. The idea of Venezuelan cocaine is, I used to do a lot of cocaine. I heard every kind of cocaine. Never heard of no Venezuelan cocaine. That's true. I've never heard of

5:49Venezuelan. It's pure Venezuelan, dude. Is it only Venezuela that they were blowing up those boats? Well, maybe they were moving the blows through Venezuela. You already know this. Right, but I think they were probably trying to cripple their money chain before they invaded them. Oh, I was reading about what they did to them. What? Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. The new weapon? The brain bleed? Oh, it's like swells your shit up. Yeah, they said it's non-lethal in a sense because it doesn't actually kill you. The Havana syndrome thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stuff they use in Venezuela. But you're fucking done. I don't think they did use it. They boil your brain. They boil your ass. I don't think they did use it. I think Maduro and They boil your ass. I don't think they did use it.

6:25I think Maduro and his wife, they got their ass out of there because the regime is still in place, by the way. I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you still have the same commie regime. Well, let's take this one step at a time. Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat ray weapon for possible use at the border. Wow. Okay. But what is that? Find out that thing that they- The discombobulator? Yeah. Is that what they're calling it? Yeah. But they were talking about it today, like what it actually does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least on this article that someone sent me on Twitter. Doesn't it raise the temperature of your cells by a little bit or something? It just fries your-

6:59It's just microwaving it. It's a microwave. It's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you, so it's non-lethal technically. Technically. But you're never the same. You're fucked. You have burns in your veins. Well, like beanbag fucking shotguns are, they say less than lethal, I thought. The beanbags are not as scary as the rubber bullets. The rubber bullets take your eyes out. Yeah, I'll kill you. Those take your eyes out. There's people who have lost eyeballs to rubber bullets. That's why I carry a whale back, a walrus back, everywhere. But the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane. These super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on. Everyone's falling down, shitting their pants.

7:35Their eyes are bleeding. I bet it is true. So those super soldier helmets, that's the... I'm sure they have that. I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying I don't think they used it there. The last 24 hours, my type of non-lethal weapon. Right, right, right. But I'm saying what they used in Venezuela they were discussing specifically. Like what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal weapon, Venezuela. Yeah. Trump administration. So this is different, I think. A heat gun. Because if they're already testing it, they fucking did this already in the Venezuela stuff. Whatever it was, whoever was talking about it, I should probably have saved it. I'm just trying to stay offline. I'm just trying to keep it.

8:20Are you really? How many hours of screen time do you think you're doing a day i do i still watch stuff but it's mostly youtube videos okay that most of my use on my phone if i'm bored is youtube videos yeah and it's all pretty either educational or interesting you had to guess social media how many an hour hour a day that's that's admirable i'm trying part of living a healthier lifestyle means being extra careful of what you put into your body. AG1 Pro gets that. Their formula was carefully crafted with vitamins, probiotics, and superfoods your body needs, plus enhanced support for your workout and recovery, including creatine. In fact, AG1 Pro contains 5 grams of Crea Vitalis, high-quality German-made

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11:33That is code ROGAN in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours. What's the average screen time, Jamie? Probably five or six hours. That's insane. Yeah, it's probably five or six hours. And on good days, I have zero hours. Good days, I just stay completely off of it. Those are the best days. But today wasn't a good day. Today, I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere. And then I got up in the morning and did a little work. And then I was tired and I took a shit. And that's when I started watching my phone. Then I watched my phone a little bit and I'm like, all right, I got to get to work. Yeah. But it was like little bit, and I'm like, all right, I got to get to work. But it was like after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser.

12:31You're like, I'm wasting time. Seven fucking hours a day. I'm usually editing. That's crazy. It would be fair to me in my hours. 49 hours a week. Now imagine kids with no self-control and teachers that aren't paying attention so they have access to them at school. Oh, yeah. Dude, even if they are paying attention, it's not good. There's nothing good. It's all poison coming in. Most of it's poison. But you can curate it and make it not poison if you're just smart with what you do. Like, I get something out of YouTube videos. I get something out of, like, things that are interesting, like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy. That stuff is interesting to me. I'm always going to

13:10look at those. I'm just fascinated. Do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos? Do you remember those? Spider-Man Elsa is one of the reasons for the apocalypse. Can you pull that up, Jamie? Do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man Elsa videos? Which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough before they changed it, it was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly fucked up videos. And no one was sure where these videos were coming from. Right. And it was... Do you want to know what the final explanation was? What? Yeah, these. So this is the one that I would have explained it with is, okay, so they basically use an algorithm. They know kids psychologically are fascinated with, like, getting a shot or pregnancy or whatever.

13:55Or violence. Or violence or bugs, and they mix it together into gibberish that's colorful so the kids stay on it. And then, okay, so that's the main, and that's probably pretty reasonable, but I think that's testing something, too. I don't think it was just, oh, it was just these greedy people were doing a thing. There is no way something like that exists, that our government didn't learn everything they could about it and how to weaponize it. Also, it was probably them. It gave you, can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? Because it gave you a weird feeling watching them. Like, it felt bad. There was a lot of the cartoons, they'd get drunk, and someone would smash their head, and there'd be blood all over the place.

14:30Yeah. They'd get a shot. What the fuck? Or Spider-Man's pregnant, and then after he gets birth, he's so relieved, like, he took a shit. Spider-Man got pregnant? Yes. They're gibberish things, but that's to go right to the subconscious. Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? Yes. They were, like, using comments and code words. Are you mean most of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? Yes. They were like using comments and code words. Most of the things for kids? They were just... Rule blocks and every other thing like that? They'd have like kid videos, like kids in a swimming pool, and then in the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame, you could see a kid's ass.

15:03That's what they were doing is so that you'd have to waste your time. It's kind of suspicious that you know that. Watching the whole video. What's the timestamp? If that's a test, if you know, then you're going to jail. The timestamp? Generally, 322. Generally. Is there a number that's attached to, like, pedophile stuff? Like, 420 is attached to weed? I don't know. Probably. They probably know. Like, 187 is murder. Probably. It seems like they got a lot of code words for sure. Oh, for sure. It's a whole thriving underground. Pizza, beef jerky. Yep. Right? Yep. You know, pizza also could be cocaine. They should, whoever the fuck wrote those emails that's alive, they should be brought into a room publicly.

15:41Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Why hasn't that happened? Well, they brought him out with blood naked, and he decided he didn't do anything. What is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't. That guy just... I met him once. He was really gross. His neighbors knew him for like 20 years. He had a massage table in his living room. My wife said, this man's gross. Yeah, and we left. And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy? I don't know. Bringing a ton of kids there to the person who's so creepy. He's bringing all their kids and some other kids. It's just a vacation. Ages. Relax. You go on vacation. People love the beach. You bring extra kids when you go on vacation, right? Just the beach.

16:17To a creep's house. A guy that you said was really creepy. It's like spare tires. Someone dies. Yeah. Extra kids. Yeah. It's really spooky, spooky man and it's really bizarre and but now the new you know what the new thing is is like stop talking about epstein is that the new thing well yeah fuentes has been saying that like fuentes has been saying not just him a lot of chris ruddy uh uh israel trip takers like your gavin mcis's and what have you. Okay, but devil's advocate. Please. Why are they doing that? Why are they doing what? Do you think it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's going to change. This Epstein stuff is a giant distraction. There's real shit we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran,

16:59like whatever the fuck is happening in France, like all the stuff. Question. So you're saying the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real thing than the midterms? No, what I'm saying is the people that are online that are, you know, air quote influencers and people talking about the news. They're doing it on purpose because they're paid. Then the morons that go along with it say the thing you're saying. Perhaps. But this is why I'm saying devil's advocate. So like if you're asking. I'm saying warm speculum. That's a fake one. We have a real one. I feel like a fraud now because I know it is. I think, is it on the sea serpent table out there? That's the last time I saw it. Ah, the sea serpent table

17:36is where you keep your baculum. Bro, have you seen that table? Oh, it's the dopest. No. That guy, the Dow, the guy that did our table in our green room at the club with the snake. Yeah. That guy's amazing, man. Oh that did our table in our green room at the club with the snake. That guy's amazing, man. Oh, he carved it? Oh, dude, he's so good. He made me an alligator. There's an alligator out there that's like surfacing out of the water that I have in the pool room. But on the table, there's a sea serpent one. It's the fucking shit, man. It's got boats and the sea serpents coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram. I'm down in New Orleans. People smoke cigars, dude. It's got boats and there's sea serpents coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram.

18:06Yeah, but I'm down in New Orleans. People smoke cigars, dude. It's disgusting. Elsagate. I'm looking for a video. But before we get to that, please pause and find that table. Just while we're on the subject, I'll forget it because I want to give this guy some credit because he's really fucking good. He's super talented. I love you got a sea serpent table with a finnick walrus dick on it. Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Steven Rinella. So this is, it's the underscore Dow. Oh, that's cool. So that's the table that's in our studio. That's the one that we had to saw in half to get up the stairs. Because it was originally for here, rather, for the studio. And then I said, that belongs in the comedy club.

18:50Yeah. That really belongs as the green room. Find the sea serpent one, though, Jamie. Where's he from? I think that's it. Hold on. Go to the left. That's it right there. Click on that. That's it. Look at that fucking thing. Look at that. Look, it's got a boat. And look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. That's cool. This is where it gets crazy at the end. Oh, that's not ours. That's not exactly ours. That's just another one. That's another one. That's pretty cool. I thought that was ours. Oh, that's an octopus one. That's different. That's awesome, dude. He's insane. Scott Dow. He's really fucking talented. Oh, look at the bottom. It's underneath it, too. That's fucking cool. Oh, dude, he's. It's underneath it, too. That's fucking cool.

19:25Oh, dude, he's so sick. And he does a lot of it. The beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man. Wow. Does he have, like, smaller, like a number two chainsaw that's smaller? Well, he gets down to the nitty gritty, and then he starts using complex tools. But, okay, it's before that. Swimming dog. Classic swimming dog classic swimming dog table we've had it for a few years now so this is only like six months ago I know but he reposts stuff I follow him on Instagram he's super fucking talented though man he does a lot of these now when we blew him up on the internet he got real popular but he was real popular I know a guy that makes fake walrus dick bones. It's on my Instagram. What is that made out of?

20:10Scott Bakula. Is that made out of bone? No, that's fake. That's fake, but the one we have outside is actually a fossilized giant walrus dick. But what's the material? Originally it was a bone. No, that's like plastic. This is some kind of wood. Oh, okay. It's fake. I mean, who cares? It's a fraud. Are you sure? Can I feel it? Are you sure it's fake? Go ahead. I'm a good detector of dicks. I'm actually holding the tip. You're holding the base. It's just hell. Let me smell it. Oh, God. Does it smell right? No, it does smell fake. It tastes weird, too, dude. I noticed that right away. It smelled like a fake walrus dick from a mile away. I noticed that right away. Does it smell a fake water stick from a mile away?

20:45I noticed it tasted weird the second I had it. How many guys have fisted each other with one of these? A lot. For sure more than one. Usually we sit on these and do it. Many. But if you have a baculum and I have a baculum, okay, then it's not as rare as we think. Because we both have them. And you didn't know I had one. Right? You saw how many guys have baculums. You got me good with that one. So how many guys have stuffed these up their ass? That's the question. More than 1,000? Well, because Texas, I was just thinking. Yeah, easily. Easily. Don't you, you know, I said joking about Texas has stronger dildo loss than Cunlis. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is going to, well, it leads to, if they can't

21:23get it in the shops, they're going to get it from Walrus Baculum. That's right. Or they're going to carve their own. Good old-fashioned ingenuity. Prison style. Know-how. Is this more of a Tallarico or the other guy issue? Walrus Baculum cane with 24-cower gold-plated handle. Wow. Is that the former owner? Yeah, look at him. I have this in my rectum. Starting bid only $10. That's it. That's a good deal. Oh, this is a long time ago. This is 2023. Oh, from God's ear to my taint. And a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner. The current bid is only $128. Take a picture of me and keep it with this whale dick cane. You got to put headphones on so we can all hear each other. Otherwise, we're going to talk over each other.

22:07I was looking for Elsagate. It keeps sending videos from about a year ago where it's saying Elsagate 3.0 is starting up and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then I was trying to cut in because I saw this pop up and I was like, what the fuck is this? Oh my God. Is candy? Is that AI? No, it's not. I don't want to see this, Jamie. I don't want to see that. That's not real though fuck is this? Oh, my God. Is candy? Is that AI? That's AI? No, it's not. I don't want to see this, Jamie. I don't want to see that. That's not real, though, is it? It's not. Oh, my fucking... And so you leave your kids sitting in front of the TV. They're going to end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated.

22:38That's why you can't do that. But then it turns into candy, so it's okay. Yeah, that's true. All right. Let's talk about AG1 Pro for a second because it's one of the smartest things you can add to your routine. It's just one scoop once a day, multivitamins, probiotics, superfoods, all in there. Plus it's got enhanced support for muscle strength and recovery built right into it. And what really makes AG1 Pro so special is the creatine. It's a highly studied compound. I'm talking over 500 peer-reviewed studies here. And you used to have to go out and buy a separate tub of the stuff, but not anymore. AG1 Pro is one daily supplement with everything you need to help you tackle whatever life throws

23:18at you, including the cooler season. Go to drinkag1.com slash joerogen and for a limited time, get a free immune support bundle, including a bottle of omega-3 fish oil and vitamin D tossed in with your first subscription order of AG1 Next Gen or AG1 Pro backed by a 90-day money-back guarantee. That's drinkag1.com slash joerogen. Fucking weird. It's fucking weird. What are those videos? What do you think is the effort into these? Well, yeah, it's to speak to subconscious. It's like a twilight language. So what do you think it's doing to your kids? What is the goal? It's discombobulating them. It's giving them nightmares. It's like he's saying, it's getting deep into your psyche. Let's turn them into a fucking gender blob.

24:06Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of shit the person who like, this is all the shooters probably what they're watching as kids. Go back to that. What the pregnant Spider-Man. This is shit that in MKUltra in the 50s you'd have to watch. You'd be forced to watch it all night. The section video says like Vietnam. Ping pong balls on your eyes and have to watch that shit. And they just get pumped out. That's what's weird about it is they just appear. These channels appear. They get populated with these bizarre animations. They disappear. They reappear. Well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. Yes. Somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons.

24:39That's right. Yeah. And also, there's a lot of animation in Vietnam. A lot of people send their shit to get animated there So hey, um how about this? We already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone well already see the damage of that What did it do Oh Disney adults for one thing you think that's a thing that should exist You don't think that's happy They're happy if they weren't doing that, they'd be trading coins. Says the guy dressed like an elf. From a hot dog. Listen to the fucking hot dog. It's bad. Listen to the techno cowboy. Listen to the CIA cowboy. Sorry, sorry. Jesus Christ. We're on the air. Fuck. Dude. That blows your cover every time. Peter Thiel's going to be texting you after this is over.

25:28He's texted me three times already during this show. I only hang out with the Soros boy. So what do you think happened to the Disney boys? People who watch Disney? Wait, is that? Disney boys. Disney boys sounds like the worst shit of all time. Whatever it is, it's horrible. We should make an AI show called the Disney Boys. Just based on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. You know Disney gangs? The Disney Boys. Like you have gangs where you have to do certain things to be in the gang. Yeah. Like you have to get kicked off of a ride. You have to disrupt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's part of like some of the Disney gangs. Yeah. Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I had to step it down because I had ankle bracelets, You have to hide. You have to disrupt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:05It's part of some of the Disney gangs. Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I had to step it down because I had ankle bracelets, so I stepped down to being a Disney boy. Those kind of hijinks. Kia, like the car company? The Kia boys that steal Kias. They're the easiest to steal cars, so there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia. Oh, I have heard of that. I've never heard of that. Yeah. Apparently, Kias are easy to steal. Yeah, but like a USB key or something really easy. They could do it in like 30 seconds. No, I mean, it's hilarious. Did you say a USB key? Yeah, it's like a hot man Ikea. They could rip them off real fast. It's that easy? There was 15, like 12, 13-year-old kids were doing it.

26:35Doesn't take a CIA guy to know that's not going to be obvious. It can't be that exciting to steal Ikea, though. Well, when you're 15. It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Ikea boys. That's true. You don't even have a driver's license. Alex Jones, this guy that got shot, he had're 15. It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia boys. That's true. You don't even have a driver's license. Alex Jones, this guy that got shot, he had a Kia. Really? Yeah. I was like, oh, maybe he got assassinated. Then I heard Kia. I'm like, no, they were just taking his Kia. Wow, that's sad. Is that really what they were doing? That's so sad. They shot him because they were stealing his Kia?

26:58As soon as I heard he had a Kia, I'm like, that's a plausible reason why. That's so depressing. Interesting how you just abandon all investigation because there's a key involved. I abandon all investigation. It's like it's solved. Well, I was not, look, I wasn't being paid to be on that show. Mystery solved. Mystery boys don't work for free. Alex is a friend, but until I get. I feel like Disney boys would be a really good show. The cool guys. It's kind of all their shows. Out of all of the different gangs at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney boys. Nobody wants to get in on the Disney boys. They're into some sick shit, I'll tell you that. They're gatekeepers. Yeah. So what do you think happened to people?

27:39What's the major damage from watching Disney? I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that like forever, you know, to the point of when you're an adult. And then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned with autism poisons to make people that buy all the products, 80% of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it, by the way, you can see that they're just a lot of fun. You tell them what sex they are. You tell them who they like. They're weird about it. They don't really reproduce until it's socially okay. You fuck up Star Wars 10 years in a row, making shitty Star Wars, and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on.

28:20Those are the perfect citizens. And then you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on because you got people, you know, it's not like being a psychopath. They want to connect, but they have a hard time connecting. So you think that's by design, like they're making people autistic? The most compartmentalized people so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture as if that's above their pay grade. Like you're not supposed to ever assemble these things. You're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month and almost no one does. I feel like I agree and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. So here's

28:57like autism. Okay. I think autism, a big factor, is not just the various environmental toxins that people are ingesting but also a lot of the fucking vaccines they're giving kids when they're young. For sure. I don't think they're doing that to make people autistic. I think they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines. You told me China was doing that. Once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing You told me China was doing that. I think once they take advantage. You told me. Hold, please, while I'm talking. Once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage. I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, oh, we're making more autistic people.

29:34There's definitely more autistic people. Now we can kind of weaponize it. Now we can kind of mold them in a certain direction. I don't think they engineered autism. I don't think. I'd like to think, at least least that people aren't that evil. Why do you like to think? Will you tell me what China did, that thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher so they were putting something? Yeah, what they did is they gene edited kids and they said they did it to prevent HIV, which like who's even worried about HIV today? Fucking zero people. HIV might have been the greatest psyop since COVID as far as what Fauci did. The way he have been the greatest psy-op since COVID. Right. As far as what Fauci did.

30:07The way he mind-fucked people with COVID, he mind-fucked people to a much greater extent. Yes, that's right. With HIV. So you don't think people are evil, though, and after you already know about that. I think individuals. Like Fauci, yes. Very capable. Oh, just a few bad apples in the fucking DARPA shit? No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't know if Disney worked together with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better citizens. I didn't say that. You have a link I'm not making that they engineered autism personally. It's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start. It's deeply Pentagon embedded. Everybody knows that.

30:41Tommy Lee Jones's cousin was the liaison to all like, who's the, what's the one with Claire Dane? You ever see Claire Danes when she was on that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Colbert. And she's on the, and she goes, yeah. And she's like a dingbat. It's like, and then we go on the CIA camp and Colbert, who I think is hip just because he did this. He had to like tamp it down immediately. So no, it's linked very intimately. Right. But you don't think that Disney or that these people are purposely working with the government. Of course. They're working with the government. Like they want more people autistic. You don't think that. Not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing. I'm just telling you, what is the propaganda?

31:21So all the complaints now about everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that? Right, right, right. So why is it like that? Do you think that they're on purpose making people autistic? Are you saying that's part of it? Whatever, when they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it, and that RFK, by the way, sold us out on, they're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the shit is. So, yeah, I don't want to think people are evil, but they are, clearly, because you wouldn't phase that out. You would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that it was doing making the frogs gay, how Alex said, inartfully but correctly, that shit mutilates genitals and sex genes.

31:59Yeah. Okay, so once you know it does that and you're not doing shit, and in fact it becomes more, that means you want to do it. That's how I look at it. I think they just want the money. They want the money. They have money. They want the profit. A major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter. Dude, the corporations are free. We have state capitalism. All of them have government contracts. Can I give my theory on this? Yes, hot dog. Okay. This is... You, cymatics. Cymatics. I know the term. I forget what it means. Cymatics. How is Cy? Cymatics. He's a great dude. He's like one of my favorite. Is this like an offshoot of Dianetics? No, it's when you just, you put like, you put baby powder on a speaker and you play certain

32:44frequencies and it forms geometries. Oh, I have seen that. So I think what both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural cymatics. There exists in the world a frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history over and over and over again the exploitation of children the sacrifice of children the uh the the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful this has been going on since all of recorded history so i said that what yeah he's really smart and you're you bully him but he's a nice he's got bad skin you know how i am well let's let's think about just think about the idea of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary that will kill them but also make companies a profit.

33:33That is child sacrifice. Absolutely. It's just a roundabout sort of a weird filtered way where you don't think about it like that, but it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing. It's very – Right? Exactly. It's just you're doing it for money. They're doing it for favor with the gods. That's the same thing. The baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker, it changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child sacrifices. It is child sacrifices, just that they dance around this maze so you don't think of it as child sacrifice where they're injecting kids with COVID vaccines and they're all getting strokes. Yes, or it's slavery. It's not child sacrifice. I mean, that's a huge part of it.

34:14But it is child sacrifice. Also, they'll sacrifice you. Exploitation. Don't worry. We use every part of the buffalo here. Imagine if your company is profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary to kids and you know for sure is killing kids and you know for sure is killing kids and you're still doing it for profit. Here, let me explain. Child sacrifice. Imagine you work in the government and you let them do that and you have these bullshit hearings and nothing ever happens or changes and you have a little stupid play. Imagine that. Because I only been on a news show for now, what, three years and already I'm like bored of this circle and people still act like it's normal and they're not just doing a play and people still act like it's normal, and they're not just doing

34:45a play. They still act like it's normal. Cali Means just left the White House today. Really? Is that the long neck? What the fuck does that mean? Cali Means was... From Trump's menagerie of freaks. Have you not seen them? Okay. Cali Means, who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things passed through, said, I can't do this. It's impossible. The deep state's real. And there's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government. And they say they're going to do something. And then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides were supposed to be done two years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen a long time ago. And they're fucking hitting the brakes on everything because they want money.

35:22Yeah. And, again, same kind of thing, right? Making money. How many people are going to lose their health, perhaps get very sick, maybe even die because they don't have access to whatever the fuck they need. And also, you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time. Right? Yeah. Like fucking glyphosate. Like, they need glyphosate like this that was the craziest argument when rfk jr was on here and he was explaining that to me that they made an executive order to keep glyphosate because otherwise it would fuck up the food business yeah so imagine that the food business is reliant on poison if it doesn't use poison it can't stay open right we can't operate how would it operate the business up because it would

36:05cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to there's all these different ways they could do it they use lasers where they fucking scan over the things they zap the plants that aren't the right ones and then if they wanted to do everything like regenerative farming that takes fucking a decade right you have to change the soil you have to do everything like regenerative farming, that takes fucking a decade. You have to change the soil. You have to do so much. You have to compost. You have to re-energize the bio material that's in the soil and turn it to enriched. You have to get fertilizer. You have to have dead animals and shit. It has to become a living thing again.

36:39Right now, it's a fucking toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from... Then they pour a bunch of fucking minerals and nitrogen and all the different things all over it just so the stuff can grow. Right. And it's like to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers, you don't need herbicides, you don't – it'll take fucking forever and it'll cost so much money because we've been tricked by these fucking crooks. These people that have decided to make the most amount of money and poison people. Probably initially they probably didn't realize what they were doing, but once they realized they were poisoning people, they just kept doing it. They've done it on purpose

37:18many times, remember that. Don't you remember what they did to them kids in Kansas City? What they did to people in San Francisco? They drizzled that cobalt shit on black kids in Kansas City. What cobalt shit? Yeah. I can't remember. What, cobalt 13 or something? Was this the one from the fans? No, that was a different thing. This is the Army. The San Francisco was the one. They went to a building next to another building, okay, and then they said, why aren't you using a plane even? They were just spraying it into these kids. That's right, right. I don't remember what it was, though. You said it's cobalt? To see what I would do. They wanted to see how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use, like, a bioweapon.

37:51Well, I'm sure it's reformed since there's no justice ever for these people. I'm sure it's gotten better. Well, they did with MKUltra. That stopped. It stopped. They don't do it anymore. The back of your eyes stand corrected. San Francisco, they were trying to see if they could spread a disease. So they spread like a cold. Right? Didn't they? They spread something like the flu. They put it in the subways. Is that what they did? I heard they fumigated the subways with disease. I think they did something where they sprayed it in the air too because the way the wind was drifting, they wanted to see how many people would infect. Right. And so at that point, I think This episode is brought to you

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40:03With the Disney boys. With the Disney boys. Hot dog and CIA. The elf. Company man. Hot dog, CIA, the elf. I mean, that's evil. I don't think it, and maybe you could argue just greed is evil. Greed, it's vampirism. Maybe you could, that's the argument. It's not just that. Greed at a certain level. But do vampires think they're evil? What's above that, though? That's, I'm a royal. I'm not just that. That's a level. But do vampires think they're evil? What's above that, though? I'm a royal. I'm not saying literally the royals, but also them. But that feeling of, I want eugenics for me, and I want dysgenics for you. I'm going to be a living god by pushing you down to the category of mineral, thereby making me a special transhuman fucking nightmare from the Dune series.

40:46What is this, Jamie? It was a great series. I don't think they're all nightmares. Hold on. Cadmium sulfide. Hold on. Let me get to the top to show you. What? This is the historical background of the U.S. biological warfare program, and it gets into- 1941 they started. Holy shit. Yeah. Here's a total of 160 tests using various simulants fine. Maybe stimulants, but I don't know and simulants simulating They're simulating disease which was conducted in 66 locations both military and civilian targets in the United States Holy shit including Alaska and Hawaii so they did a hundred sixty different tests where they try to infect people They don't do it anymore. They tend to infect people. They don't do it anymore, though. Or at least pretend to infect people.

41:25They stop. Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an Army report. 1977, conduct of BW testing, specialized sampling, and analysis techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances. Jesus Christ. Bro. Look, see the subways right the downwind travel distances. Jesus Christ. Bro. Look, see the subways right there. Mm-hmm. Back to New York and San Francisco. They got a lot better, dude. Yeah, I don't know why people think I'm saying anything far out ever because this is Nazi-level shit here. Well, we brought all those Nazis, so we're going to do some Nazi stuff. Right. That's true. They probably learned a lot. I just found this out, the OSS, when they

42:05merged with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA, it wasn't, yeah, that's how they got that. What? Jesus Christ. Let him roll, baby. You gotta let him rip. You mean what? It's good shit, baby. How do you know all these people? Wait, you had all them CIA guys. None of them know this. Hold on, hold on. Say it again. Say it again. How do you know? You had all them CIA guys on here. None of them know this? I don't know. He tells me too. And it again. You had all them CIA guys on here. None of them know this? I don't know. He tells me too. And I'm like, no, I don't know it. No one knows this. He always does that. He looms over you. You don't know? He's got his maculum ready to. My hat. This hat was not good with the headphones.

42:36So explain it again. The OSS. What happened with the Nazis? After the war, they merged with the SS. You know, Otto Skrzeny, I believe, that carried on Gladio. That's the strategy of tension where you fund, like, both sides of the thing. So you've heard of this. The strategy of tension. Southern Poverty Law Center, you texted me about when they were doing, they were paying for the Charlottesville. Yes. That's the strategy of tension. That goes back to Otto Skorzeny. after the war. That's a Nazi. So you sure that that wasn't like standard techniques that people just use? Like Nero burned Rome, right? They've always done things that have caused conflict. Yes, but the term. I mean the term. Yes, but you are correct.

43:16But the strategy of tension, that term comes originally from Otto Scorsese's group, the Gladio. Interesting. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Well, we'll find out. We'll put that in. Perplexity. Let's ask perplexity. It knows how the CIA was formed. Well, I did ask, and it's very strange what it says here. The last paragraph is the one that matters. It is inaccurate. I was trying to say it. The OSS merge with the SS is inaccurate. The documented history is that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for Cold War intelligence, not that the two wartime organizations merged. Yet, if you have an organization and you have people in that organization and they join your organization,

43:54you fucking merge. What's the difference? That's a merger. The organization above both of them that the CIA is under and probably still under, I believe is called the World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that. What? Never heard of it. That's who merged World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that. What? Never heard of it. That's who merged them together. It was in charge of that and then making it. If you watch my boy Sean Patrick Hazlitt's show Through a Glass Darkly, great. Say it slowly so people can hear your words. Sean Patrick Hazlitt. What is the term of the show? The name of the show? Through a Glass Darkly. Okay. Through a Glass Darkly. Okay. Through a Glass Darkly. Tolkien's been on it.

44:27What? You've been on it. I've been on that show? Holy shit. Am I being gaslit? Is that what this is? Hey, man, I'm just a hot dog. Sean from Turning Point Sam Tripoli. Yeah, my think tank. Oh, Through a Glass Darkly. It's good. I love that show. I remember. Sorry, Sean. I remember now. Why do you say, yeah, my think tank? Like, I don't know what the fuck. He's got a think tank. Yeah. When did you start that? Well, it's just a group text. It's not real. I probably am overselling it. No, no, you're not overselling it because it's got like doctors and professors. So let's call our text thread the think tank, too. Let's. Yeah, we should. It's already kind of being used on Turning Point. You can have two think tanks.

45:08Can you have two think tanks? A lot of guys are involved in multiple startups. Dude, Dizzy Boys? Oh, my God. Dude, are you watching this? Have you watched the dropout, the Elizabeth Holmes Hulu series? No. How is it? It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. I'm wondering, is it so good because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to the Dropout podcast? But I've been watching the show, and just because I haven't seen the movie yet, I want to watch the show and then see the movie. But the fucking, that chick, what's her name? Amanda Seyfried? Holy shit, is she good, dude. Oh, she plays her? She's she good, dude. Oh, she plays her? She's so good, dude. Oh, wow. She slowly starts changing her voice.

45:50She acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's fucking really good, dude. Wow. That show is crazy. I can't believe I didn't even hear anybody recommend it before. Look at that. Yeah, big difference. Hooray for Hollywood, baby. I mean, I'm kind of for the improvements to the, you know. They should have made her a black man. It would have been just as accurate. Dude, I'm way into that idea. Are you kidding? I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would have been sucking her feet. Not one that looked like that? The real one would have taken me in a second. Like that, those eyes, those deep blue eyes. You saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip when she's looking at him. She draws you in with those eyes.

46:31And you know what you're not experiencing? People like that have an aura. They have a real vibe that pulls you in. So when you're just looking at that like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence. So you think that if you said, hey, no cameras, no films, could I just come over your house and ask you questions about what happened? You think that she would just get you? Very slowly. She would suck you. She would suck you in. Suck you into her web. Think of how much money she grifted. Think of like what she did. Like if we take the ethics and morality out of it, it's spectacular. When you look at the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more

47:14than you just can't know until you're around someone. I mean, you've been around. You have people like that on your podcast. You can feel their vibe. Not at that level. The charm of J.D. Vance coming at you like that, you couldn't feel it? Oh, yeah. Trump, I'm sure, radiates some kind of weird aura. Anytime I've been around people like that, they get you. Who knows what it is? Mirror neurons? Who knows what it is? These are warlocks. These are sorcerers. There's a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup. These are sorcerers. There's a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right? Yes. You're doing something. You're pitching this thought, and they all think they're going to cash in.

47:52But there was also the culture of startups in Silicon Valley where there was a lot of bullshit startups. That was one of her arguments was that everybody was doing this. Everybody was kind of bullshitting. Everybody was making these – My problem with the show is that it's really good and there's facts in it for sure. They actually faked these things. They did this. They got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people. And I know somebody just made it up. It takes me right out of it. Me too, dude. When they're alone. I hate biopics. Sunny Balwani and her alone and they're made it up. It takes me right out of it. Me too, dude. When they're alone. I hate biopics. Sonny Balwani and her alone,

48:27and they're acting weird together. I'm like, you don't know if that's real. Right. You're making me think about them a very specific way that you can't. They didn't participate. They didn't help you. They didn't tell you I said this, and then she said that. So you're just making things up, and you're pretending. It's like gonzo journalism. You're mixing fake. That's what Hunter used to do. Right, to propagandize me a certain way. Yes, yes. So part of me is like, I don't think you should be able to do that. But that's a good warlock trick. By the people who made the show. I mean, gonzo journalism, like, yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying. Did you ever see the thing that he did about the election?

49:06Well, did you ever see the thing that he did about the election when he did Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail? Oh, yeah, yeah. So he made Ed Muskie go crazy. He made him go crazy because he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor and he was addicted to Ibogaine. Do you know this whole story? No. No, I know. I find it to be very strange. He caused the guy to have a nervous breakdown. And so the guy was on the campaign trail and he's like, I am not a drug addict. And he would literally go crazy. Wow. And so Hunter, find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavett show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavett show that he made this whole thing up and he caused this guy's campaign to sink.

49:44Wow. And affected the entire election. You know, this is so funny because I was just watching this thing on Aleister Crowley and in his confessions, he was saying that he made the Nazi Germany fall apart. Like he infected Germany with these insane ideas. You're never going to forgive him for that, are you? I mean, let it go, man. Let it go. You and your boy, Theo. Love it, isn't it? Oh, my God. Look at this. Musky was eating Ibukin. I never said he was. I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. I started the rumor in Milwaukee. You finally said what you mean. So that was who's saying, I said there was a rumor in milwaukee that he was which was true and i started the rumor in milwaukee he finally said what you mean so that was he's saying i said there was a rumor in milwaukee

50:29and it's true because i started the rumor in milwaukee exactly so he started this rumor he wrote about it yeah and then he caused the guy to go crazy yeah magic pure and simple well voodoo's real yeah right if you believe in voodoo if you believe I tell you I'm putting a spell on you Yeah, believe it. Yeah, your life's gonna fall apart. Okay. Well like you said you don't want to believe people are evil That's the spell Odun Gnostic voodoo is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for Americans I didn't was pronounced voodoo by the way that size pronounced and but they use a lot of that and The main thing though because you had Grush on here talking about the four NHIs right? Right. The four NHIs

51:12that sounds like a like a band like Simon Cowell's like those guys that were just singers like El Divo like the four NHIs and they do opera songs there are what was it the bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics Germans and the whatever the lizard one and the Nordics, Germans, and the whatever, the other kind. Well, the Nordics look like Greek gods. Yeah. So that's when he, okay, that part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and Ridley Scott Prometheus-ish. Yeah. So it's eugenics and dysgenics, and a big thing that I just learned of, and it's from South Africa, is called Tokolosh. Oh, this is good. Yeah. On Mystery Boys. Oh, this one. It already got there. This is fucked up.

51:52So you know what Tokolosh is? No. Uh, Credo Mutwa, who's the shaman that David Icke likes from South Africa that taught him about the lizards. You know that guy? No. You've never had either Credo. No, I'm joking. I take. Dr. Lizards. You don't know Dr. Lizards? No. Oh. him dr lizards you know that guy no you've never had either credo no i'm joking all right dr lizards you don't know dr lizards anyway he it's in his book but uh they would have practice uh which like the fucked up ones where they take like a pygmy or uh which i guess a small person i'm not not clear but it's a human pygmy right it just means they're small small in the jungle or something okay take them or a disabled like someone who's got a disability or a mutation,

52:28you know, any kind of malformed person. Right. They would grab these people and raise them like, they put like bent wood to like make their limbs grow weird, to turn them into like monster-y goblin. And then just, it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're a another entity like a supernatural entity called tokolosh the cia studied that okay and it brought that shit here and so the four nhi i say are this is why the aliens need sperm and ova because they're making this stuff out of people it's all they've been doing this shit under the Energy Commission probably since 48. What? They're making this shit out of people? So you're saying that these non-human intelligences—

53:14They're human. They mixed them with shit. People made them. Now they can do a CRISPR. They don't have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore and it beat you. They can do it with blue light, Spider-Man, Elsa, and they can fucking do it. It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be. The greys are just some warped mutant hybrid person. That's why they look like fetuses, I bet. And that's why they got to steal your- Wait a minute. They've been doing, wait a minute. They've been seeing greys since the 50s. You think they've been doing it back then? Here's what I'm getting to. So do you remember Diana Pasolka? Not Diana Pasolka. The one that wrote the DARPA book.

53:49I'm blanking on it. Annie Jacobson. And remember at the time, I thought this story was so stupid. The DARPA said it was deformed kids that Russia sent over to freak us out. That was the Roswell thing. Yeah. So now I understand that story a lot better because Tokalosha in South Africa, they're rare, but you can still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising, you know, like troglodyte people or something who never see the light. They torture, tell them they're like, and they can climb and people die of fright seeing these things. So wait a minute, you think that all these alien abduction experiences, it's all human createdcreated, fake? Well, I didn't say fake. I said they speciated us into four other things.

54:33And the reason is that the Nordics are the eugenics. And you could tell us from back then because they're blonde and blue blood and blue-eyed. You know, the ideal of the 50. Then you got your lizard people, which is straight out of fucking Star Trek. And by the way, that guy was a creep, Gene Roddenberry. Just, you know, he's a fucking creep. Jesus Christ. Okay. But the lizard, lizards and men don't come from space. They come from here. And so you can, and that's why the sightings in other countries, because like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs, though. That always is a thing. Let me back him up here. Because the local movie maker people are the ones designering these.

55:14They've had this CRISPR shit for a long time. You understand that, right? What the fuck? Dude, Joe, look it up. Jamie, maybe you could pull this up. Yeah, they're that bad. And that's where the Disney comes in. One at a time, Kurt. Come on. They just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this? Yes. Yes. I told you in confidence and now, okay. I'm sorry. I forgot. It's getting heated here. I'm sorry. But, you know, what he's saying, even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane. Hold that while you talk. It doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions come here. It's equally insane. But when you look at what we're doing now, creating human-mouse-brain hybrids with brain organelles harvested from stem cells, we are doing that.

55:56And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon tests. That was in the 40s. So would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies, were abducting children and warping them to see if we could make super soldiers? Or how about farming them? I mean, there's clearly a market pressure for that if you're trying to have a military advantage. And when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man. Right, but do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant heads and big black eyes? This goes back to Annie Jacobson's thing, because the space race, I'll tell you why. The space race with the Soviets. Okay.

56:41Right. Okay. This was before the space race, bro. What are you doing? Oh, God. Don't touch me with the tip. It. Okay. This was before the space race, bro. What are you doing? Oh, God. Don't touch me with the tip. It's cold. Before you do, this is a, I did find something about the Tokalosh farm. This is someone quoting it. Oh, it's so exciting. But nothing I found said it was real, but this is what it says. Okay, so this is a talk of a Tokalosh farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins. Holy shit. Trained with, with muti knowledge. I don't know what that means. And all the terrifying things whispered about in secret I haven't seen it but it's something we're told to be aware of

57:11it's the X-Men you know it means like mind your business in Bantu or some shit or it's like this is evil don't ask about it they won't make carvings of it so think how classified of knowledge of it is they won't make a carving of it since going way back. Assassins. They don't want to disclose it because you can't. It's terrible. It says there's three grades of tokoloshe. The most common one, people known, is like a little hairy man. Often it's not mystical at all. It can be trained animals, even baboons, used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a tokoloj, fear grips you, and that fear becomes its own weapon.

57:50So that's mind war right there. That's what you call it. Nice mind war. In South Africa. Well, they studied everything. Remember, scopolamine, zombies are undead. Zombies are people that have been tricked and brainwashed. You know, I took your heart, now this rock is your heart mmm and don't lose this ring Explanation from the resident healer saying goma Pretorius Heavenly healings resident healer. I love the name of the company heavenly healing A place like where you go to get a tantric massage. That's him talking about. That's him? I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the fuck up. What about the pentagram necklace? Any man with a nose ring? I trust chicks with nose rings. I don't trust him as a dermatologist either, I'll tell you that.

58:35Here he goes, attacking people with skin conditions. You should go to a laser guy. Get his face resurfaced. That's just helpful. I think so. I don't think that's hateful at all. I'm not into guys with nose rings. Jamie, I just said you. Girls can look hot with nose rings. I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice Beach. It got fucking infected. I bet you did. It got swollen. Well, I do it. This episode is brought to you by Onyx Hunt. Do you hunt or recreate outside? Or are you in real estate or other fields where you need to know property boundaries or ownership? Listen up. Millions of hunters, including me, use the OnX Hunt app, and here's why. It turns your phone into a GPS that works anywhere, even without cell service.

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1:00:09It was real dumb. You're crazy. Living on the edge. Could have lost my nose. Ooh, really? Was that bad? It got super, well, no. I mean, I got my, some dude on the Venice boardwalk shoved a needle into my nose and it got infected. You could have lost it. That's not as exciting, but I know what you mean. It is weird. Well, when do you get an infection? Especially if you get, like, that's the risk of getting a nose job too, right? How many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection? Yeah. And you have rotting tissue in your nose? It just rots off. You're smelling just dead meat everywhere. Oh, my God. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I didn't even consider the smell. Smells like just stinking feet. The good thing

1:00:48though is that olfactory senses, it just detects changes in smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like shit, like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it. Right. Wait, that's interesting. So that's like a smoker can't, because I could never smell cigarette smoke when I smoked. Exactly. Right, right. Yeah. People that are like a smoker can't, because I could never smell a cigarette smoke when I smoked. Exactly. Right, right. Yeah. People that are, when you like, if you live in an area that stinks, you don't detect it. You detect changes in smells. Yeah. Which is really weird. Yeah, that's weird. What if I live in a shirt that stinks? I wonder what that's for.

1:01:18Do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to? Probably. Probably. I mean, you don't want to be tortured by it. It could also be a misfire off another thing. Maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of shit for so long. Think about Roman life when they would just take buckets of shit and throw it out the window. Yeah, but a farm, at least it's out there. But it's with everything. It's out on the field. That's manure. That's different. Like human shit that they're throwing out the window and there's people stacked on top of each other it's like throwing these pots of shit 1800s yeah but think of like telephone poles they're everywhere but you never notice them the whole

1:01:56like everywhere you go these there's fake trees with with metal right here we go and you just get accustomed to it you You get accustomed to it. Yeah, it looks normal to you. Oh, the wire trees aren't real. They're not real, man. That's a telephone pole. I keep telling you that. Did you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars when it was just horse-drawn carriages? There was horse shit everywhere. Everywhere. All those people were sick. You wonder where these diseases came from. Tuberculosis. All those people were sick. You just breathe, you wonder where these diseases came from. All those people were sick. Well, I bet they got a hearty. You just breathe in shit fumes. Typhoid.

1:02:29Yeah. And they didn't know. What's crazy is this was before germ theory. They called it a miasma, and they thought it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells wafting in from swamps that contained within them in those winds, rotten animal breath, which was causing diseases to spread. This is my asthma theory. Look it up. That's how crazy people were. Is that how they got asthma? This is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath, like rotten raccoon breath wafting through the wind was getting people sick. Oh my God. It's crazy. Wow. I've caught the horse vapors. But you've got to wonder what shit like that is happening now. Like, what kind of things like that

1:03:14that we haven't discovered. It's called glyphosate. They're not taking it out, we said. Yeah. But there's got to be stuff like that now. I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like, if you could quantify it, like how many people are sick because of it, how many people got diseases because of it. Yeah. That's the other stuff. That's microplastics. That's phthalates. Phthalates are shrinking tates. Are we sure of that? Phthalates shrinking tates? Yeah. There's studies on that. I thought the frog mutation is from the other one. From Harvard, that book. It is weird when you talk to younger kids. They're all like, yeah, my taint's small. They just accept it. By the way, it is gape-tober.

1:03:53Remember that? It's gape-tober, by the way. I think I'll tell you it's gape-tober for everybody, for your taints. Get out there and get in. The kids are just all measuring taints on Snapchat. Measure it, measure your friends, then you got a taint in you. Like when they see porn from the 80s, they must be like, damn, that guy's taint is gigantic. You need a baculum? Yeah. You get a walrus baculum and a friend. Can you stretch your taint like the way the guys reclaim foreskin? Yes. We've explored this on the Mystery Boys many times. That's the main mystery we talk about. And they pull their foreskin up to try to- I wouldn't do that. I would just beat it with a firm and a replica's fine if you can't afford

1:04:29the real thing we're not all Joe Rogan I disagree with this I don't think you can do that don't shame me don't wealth shame me for my baculum wealth shaming such an asshole just apologize you know I have been doing that a lot I'm such a piece of shit taint stretching Jesus Christ perennial massage taint stretching. Jesus Christ. Perennial massage. Taint stretching is real. That's probably for women, I think. Perennial massage or perennial stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning Nice try. What even is that? Of perennium. That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy. Yeah. Well, I mean, I say that while I'm doing it. This is the band of skin and muscle located between the vaginal opening.

1:05:06It is now. Or scrotum. Interesting. Depending on if you're a trans woman. Yeah. I am. Then it's vagina, sort of, trans, scrotum-ish, whatever. I mean, you kind of look at everything that's going on, right? And that's when I heard the miasma shit. I was just thinking, like, I think maybe it's glyphosate, maybe it's microplastics, or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet. Like DDT. Like, they didn't know what was going on with DDT. And then they're like, oh shit, we gotta stop using this. Or time. We're killing everybody. Here's my crazy idea, is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time-space continuum that are happening right now. Ripples in time-space are causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity.

1:05:52Take it from here, Kurt. I'm sick of your time-space bashing, first of all. Let me say that. No, I'm saying that like— This show is very problematic. Okay, so explain what you're saying. I'm saying that, you know, they talk about this. They can measure these. They measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time space. It ripples through the universe. And we're time space. I just feel like a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff, are potentially related to people who've been rippled. The time space rippled them weird. And there's no way to measure that or find it. I know you're not taking it back now.

1:06:37No, but I, you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs. What happens if time space ripples through you why why do we assume that everything stays the same like i don't mean to get into the cern particle accelerator shit but when you look at when you look at that stuff when you're like smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations everything's connected to everything what effect does that have on everything else? We just don't know. But if you look at CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history post those moments, shit got weird and it got weird fast. And I don't know.

1:07:22This is just something I kick around at night. It's not a bad thought. We don't know if they created the Higgs boson when they did that, when they figured out element 115. Yeah, who knows what they're doing really. You know what the original thought was? That they were going to create a black hole. And that there was going to be a microscopic black hole that went through the entire Earth. That was the thought. Well, that's the fear. But they said they can make them. They're just very small and don't last, right? That's what they thought. But they didn't know until they did it. They said, let's see. So you know what they do with that? What? This is the thing. I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that.

1:07:56Oh, thank you. Oh, and Alex Jones is telling you about stopping kids' hearts to send their minds through space and all that. The little tiny micron openings that they make, you can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through. So you do that Phoenix shit where you stop someone's heart. You do an ejection. Wait, listen to what you just said. They're making little black holes so they can send someone's consciousness through it, and this is planned out. The disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they were not going to disclose that. What do you mean? They figured out what consciousness is, and they figured out how to manipulate it with electrical...

1:08:31I don't know. I'm not... But what do you think it is? Why do you think that they figured it out? Well, based on my research and the people I talk to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which makes a lot of sense. You've got to be this. But what does that mean, though? They figured out what consciousness is. Like how to take you out of your fucking body and pop you back in. What? Yeah. People do it now online. You could learn how to do it. I think they could do it with that God helmet, right? Like can't they induce out-of-body experiences with the God helmet? You know the God helmet? Don't put that helmet on. But is that an illusion or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body?

1:09:07I'm not saying that helmet's taking out of your body, but if it's an illusion, it's totally a realty. I'm not seeing a difference, but I don't say it does that. But you just crank the... It's like anything else. You just crank the... Right, but you're saying they're taking consciousness out of their body, and they're sending it through a black hole they created with a particle collider. That's a lot. There's over 30,000 particle colliders. That's a big stretch. That's a lot collider. That's a lot. That's a big stretch. That's a lot to unpack. That's as much of a stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crafts and kidnap people. I lean more towards believing that theory than the black hole consciousness ejection.

1:09:37Both of them. I'm like, I don't know. I didn't expect this to happen. Because I don't know what a space-time ripple thing is. I don't know what that means. Don't attack my space-time ripple theory. What does that mean? What? What does that mean? attack my space-time ripple theory. What does that mean? What? What does that mean? Space-time ripples? Yeah, what does that mean? Don't you have that every day? He wells James. He attacks space-time ripples. He attacks my space-time ripple theory. You're scared to be clean, aren't you? And he talks about Tokalov. Excuse me? He thinks I bully. Son of a bitch. Yeah. He thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars. I'm not. I'm bullying those stars.

1:10:06I'm saying. You know those little stars you put on your pants? We don't understand space time. Some of us. But you know, people experience distortion in time. All the time it happens. Well, yeah, that's true. Alien abductions. One second, it's like you're driving down the road, the next second it's morning, you don't know what happened. Scopolamine as well. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, whatever, in the way we didn't understand germs, we don't understand retrocausality, and people are starting to talk about that now, that maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk. They're exploring those ideas. So in the same way we didn't understand germs or atoms, we don't understand time-space.

1:10:51How much of a person's personality is the way that they're atomically interacting with the time-space continuum? And is the time-space continuum constant? No. We all know that if you take a watch, put it in orbit, time moves differently. We also know that time-space ripples, I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is it's a completely ununderstood, vast, insane reality that we don't understand. And how much does that affect culture? A lot of it's classified. A lot of reality's been classified. What do you mean? What reality's been classified? Well, anything that's classified, that would count as reality being classified, but I would say

1:11:39the NHI bullshit. You know, you have that autistic guy. We got a good autistic man sitting here. What's his name? Grush? Yeah. An autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which, I don't know. He has no more credibility than I do, I feel. I feel I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Grush is telling you on this show. It's David Grush. Well, who's Neil? Neil deGrasse Tyson. You mix them together, which would be an incredible hybrid. Yo, I just gave them a great Tokalosh idea. It's so kind of terrible. Neil deGrasse. Oh, shit. The particle accelerator makes them merge. One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all, and one person who told me about four different ones.

1:12:18Oh, Joe. He told me about wars. They were having wars with the reptilians and the greys. The Rubito. They were Siamese twins. Huh? The Rubito. The Rubito, that's the ultimate goal of alchemy To create a Neil deGrasse Tyson Did you ever see that picture of the Siamese twins? One of them's gay, the other's not Is that real? I don't know, but I didn't want to look to see if it wasn't real I think that's a meme Is it just the picture's real but they just said that about them? Or there's a picture of one of them being gay? It's just a Siamese twin, and one dude's kissing another dude, and the other one's kind of sitting there like, fuck. The other one's like, I don't think that's real. Someone's got to find that picture.

1:12:55I think one of them's gay. The other one's in denial. The other one's a Catholic. Neil deGrasse Tyson. I like it. Neil deGrasse Tyson is amazing. That's going to be probably the best out of the Tyson. I like it. I like it. I like it. Neil deGrasse Tyson is amazing. That's going to be probably the best out of the show. I like it. That would be a great character, like an AI character that's very conflicted about his belief in aliens. I mean, do you believe Grush? Do you believe he's telling the truth? Well, here's the thing. He hasn't had any personal experiences of note. He's telling you what he heard. There was no thing where he was in the presence of a ship, no thing where he communicated with a being.

1:13:31So all these people that are telling me these things, these programs they were read into and these videos they've seen, I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story. I don't know. If you haven't seen it, I think what Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling. Well, Bob Lazar said all that stuff turned out to be accurate. Element 115 was accurate. The fact that he was actually in Los Alamos' employee register, He was 100% an employee there. The fact that he knew exactly where Area S4 was and it was completely classified. There's photos of the actual fucking Sanger doors that he described decades earlier. Did he say... I'm trying to remember.

1:14:20Fuck. Glad you interrupted. Wait, did he say the thing about that they were calling the aliens the kids, the children or the kids or something? Do you remember him saying something like that? I don't remember that. I don't know. Because someone was telling me that and I was like, oh, that's interesting. I don't know. Well, they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he, this one, that thing that is right there, or that one up on that fucking pic, that's from his office. This was a replication of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked, the workshop. And so when he first got to Area S4, before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall. He's like, what the fuck is this?

1:14:57Is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human? It's supposed to be a recovered craft. It's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said when you got inside of it, it was very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things, like three-foot-tall creatures. Everyone had a crouch inside of it, and there was no controls. It was somehow or another they controlled it with their mind. It was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being. And they figured out how to pilot these things. And he said that there was two different generators inside of it. One of them was for going insanely fast and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that made you go insanely fast because apparently they couldn't

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1:18:14that they had in the 1980s. There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's much more likely that- Fly by water was around- Much more likely that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something from something else that was different than humans. I forgot this part. I don't think they were engineering three-foot-tall humans in 1947 to pilot these things with their brains. I bet they were. I'm going to buy it. Wait, hold on. I'm going to forget. Remember the guy you had on that was telling you about the pharaohs going up the river and they go to a different temple and they get bandaged up and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple you had an egypt guy here telling

1:18:48you that remember him yeah okay it's called atavism that's the thing that's in the dune series the big part of making these uh creatures is and also the mind control shit they did was atavism the stuff from altered states where you go in the isolation chamber and regress to a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory. Do you know what I'm talking about? I saw altered states, yeah. But you know that's called atavism, right? You've heard of that? I never heard that term. Reappearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Oh, like when people grow a tail? This is early. Or like when chickens grow fangs. Now think of the reptilians. Wow, that's crazy, Kurt. That's cool, man. I didn't get it.

1:19:29Somebody smaller gave it to me. But, dude, a lot of people send me great shit. We were both engaged by the way. So how do you think that connects to the greys? He's saying you could maybe, if there was some ancestral, early, proto-hominid being, you could bring it out of a person. That's pretty cool, man. You've seen those images, those elongated skulls from Peru. Yes. It's as old as every civilization is altering people to make them foot binding, castration. The Peru skulls are different. No, I know. What do you mean? Well, they're actually bigger. That's right. They're not elongated. Dan was telling us about it. They have a 30% larger brain capacity. The shape is different. They don't have this sagittal crest

1:20:13or whatever they call it, the sagittal suture. I get it. The line that we have in our skull is where kids and our brains grow. Their lines are totally different. It's like a totally different kind of person. People went cargo cult. People were around these beings that It's like a totally different kind of person. No, that's why that blood types. So people went cargo cult. People were around these beings that were super advanced, and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, well, all you got to do is stretch your head out. Well, not only that, they're probably related to them, too. They're probably intermingling with them. So people that have the trait are probably considered better, right?

1:20:39For sure. I think there was probably some of that. And that's probably what they were talking about in the Bible when they were talking about in like the book of Enoch and stuff like that, when they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters of men. That's in Genesis. Book of Enoch is like fan fiction. No, no, no. It's not fan fiction. No, it's not. Book of Enoch is like 3000 BC. It doesn't mean it's in the Bible. It was widely accepted. You know why it's not in the Bible? Because of rabbis. Because rabbis said it didn't jive with the Torah, so they removed it from the Bible. It's in the Ethiopian Bible. But in the book of Jude, they're quoting it. It's old. But they quote Enoch.

1:21:10You were that dipping Mormon on here, didn't you? They quote Enoch in the Old Testament. Isn't it 3000 BC is like how old that shit is? It's fucking old. It's old as shit. But my point is, it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters of men. The interbreeding of those two species would make sense. Like one of them. Look, imagine how smart people are. Now imagine we had 30% more brain. Right. Yeah. Now imagine we've been able to make someone like that and they've done the experimentation. Of course, they're not going to tell you it's illegal, but that doesn't stop them. For sure. Today, they're probably thinking about doing it. No. At the very least. Thinking now. Edward Tell At the very least.

1:21:46Edward Teller, that creep. Wouldn't shock me. That's the reason Bob Lazar was at that place, because Edward Teller. I got to piss. I'm sorry. You don't have to shit. I'm not shitting. You son of a bitch. Wait. So what did Edward Teller do? That's why Bob Lazar was there. What no sagittal suture means. Sagittal suture is the joint running front to back along the top of the skull between the two parietal How do you say that? Parietal? Parietal bones? Parietal. Parietal bones? Okay. So, but the thing, what the paracas evidence shows, scroll down. Hold on, I just was pointing this out. 14% out of the 78 studied in one study had what they call sagittal suture obliteration, where it disappears. Huh.

1:22:30And then this is another thing. Sagittal craniosynostosis, where it disappears while still being in... So what you're saying is it could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out What if I could you know the chickens with teeth DNA they still you know they have teeth DNA They're on teeth right well What if you had that trait and I could had a farm under the ground because I have the funds to do it and I have A deep underground military base called they've had those for a while COG. It's called continuity of government That's why we have that stuff and I can do whatever the fuck I want down there there ain't no in fact the doomsday network created by those that's the name of if there's a war

1:23:11and they gotta stay in communication it's called the doomsday line or something network right that's what they were using for the Iran-Contra affair so that they could get around like Congress and other well we know that they that humans have Neanderthal DNA that's right and we know that they're making a colossal bio... How much did you say that? A lot. 57% more than most people. I couldn't... I mean, when you said that, I was like, wow, that's a crazy number. I've never heard anybody say that much of it. It makes sense, though. It's not that I'm 57% more Neanderthal. You're the same size hands as me, but they're like a goddamn Neanderthal. Well're the same size hands as me, but they're like,

1:23:45think they're like a goddamn Neanderthal? Well, it's like, certain people have certain genetics. You look like a long range hunter to me. You look like a guy who wears an elephant down. My point is, if you could find those Neanderthal genes, and if you were like the same kind of people with Colossal Bioworks that made the direwolves, if they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal. First of all, the other thing they're realizing about Neanderthals- How about a Nordic alien? They might have been smart. Really? Yeah. They have a larger brain than human beings. They were smart. They know that. They found that just from- But they're kind of shifting their perspective on what they were.

1:24:21In terms of, we used to think they were just dopes, just big, angry dopes. Yeah. But now they're thinking, no, they probably had language. They probably had tool making. They're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people. Yeah. They were also much physically stronger than people and they had larger brains. So you're saying these are the Nephilim? This was the Neanderthal? No. I think the Nephilim, I think there's some evidence that those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans. Yeah. You know, those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans. You know, those Denisovans is the new. Yeah, we had Dan Duncan on the Mystery Boys talking about it. Dan Richards. D. Duncan. Yeah, Dan to Duncan.

1:24:53That guy's great. He's great. But that Denisovan thing is strange, man. They were big as fuck, man. They were like giant people. There were giants in those days. They just figured that out just a decade or two ago. How many of those are just out there that we're never going to find? What about the Tamucuan Indians that they got? It's almost eight foot tall. You can go see the bones down there. Well, there's the Smithsonian bones, like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones. They're listed in like old news reports and shit. People finding 12 foot tall skeletons with six fingers and six toes. The six fingers thing is a big. It's weird. Some Denisovans were big. Two individuals have been estimated roughly five feet,

1:25:3411 inches and 183 pounds and six feet, three inches and 200 pounds. Those estimates of two. So much larger than people were back then. Right. Neanderthal was shorter. It's like average five foot six. much larger than people were back then. Neanderthal was shorter. It's like average five foot six. So Neanderthals and Denisovans are very different. But then, you know, they found those hobbit people. Yeah. Right? So they know that. Do you know that there's a lady who is like a legitimate wildlife biologist that claims she encountered those things? What? Yes. What did they do? She knows Forrest Gellant. And when Forrest Gellant was on my show, he was explaining it to me, and he told me about it afterwards. This lady

1:26:09claimed that, and she was like a legitimate explorer, she claimed that they were surrounding the village where she was at, and that they were in the woods, and she saw them with her own eyes. Were they dangerous? They're little fucking tiny hairy people, man. Don't gush! No, it's the Orang Pendek. Well, that's natural. What is it? Do you know the term Orang Pendek? No. It's like, I think it's Indonesia. They're these tiny, and in Vietnam, there's these tiny little hairy people that live in the woods. And everybody thought that was total horseshit. Just like Bigfoot. Just a tiny Bigfoot. But now that they found these little tiny people on the island of Flores, they go, okay, like biologically that was a real thing.

1:26:50And if you're dealing with like, have you ever seen what Indonesia looks like? Intense. Sure. Rainforest. It's like insane. Like there's no way you're going to know what is out there. There's no way. There's no way we have an audit of all the different square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there. There's no way. There's no way we have an audit of all the different square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there. It's too crazy. And so these people who live there say there's little tiny hairy people. Do they wear clothes? No. You know, it's just hogs flapping around. That's the one thing that isn't tiny. Hogs and fucking spears. Are they dangerous? Were she scared? The idea that this lady was saying was they were hunting people.

1:27:29They were hunting giants, they would call them. We kill elephants. People kill elephants. We are their Nephilim. If you're standing next to those people, you're their Nephilim. It's a relative thing size. They are like us a million years ago. I saw an interview with, I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager, who was saying, like, yeah, they're out in the forest. And someone's like, well, what do they do? And he goes, they kill you. Yeah. I mean, look, we know Native Americans ate people. Right. It was, like, pretty common. Yeah. Pretty common. The Nez Perce, they would eat their enemy. Like, it was a normal thing, man. And also South America. Like, one of the things that, what is his name, Daniel Everett, he was telling us.

1:28:12There's two different types of cannibalism. One is cannibalizing your enemies. And you kill your enemies, you eat them. The other one is cannibalizing your family members when they die. To honor them, you eat them. I've heard of that. Or there's like martial cannibalism where they members when they die. To honor them, you eat them. I've heard of that. Or there's like martial cannibalism where they fall in battle and you drink. That's the Scythian way. Yeah, sure. But do you eat all of them or just a little strip? I think with your dead relatives. I mean, they wouldn't call it that, but they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife. And they want to make sure they do that. One of the guys that worked for him left.

1:28:45He was like, he said, I have to go home because one of my relatives died and I have to eat them. Like I have to be a part of the ritual. But is it the whole body or are you just a little bite? They dunk sweet potato in the fucking drippings. I hate sweet potatoes. So the person, you don't eat them for like three years or three, three days, three years. You don't eat them for like three days. So they sit out there in the sun for three days and they have these like buckets underneath them to catch when they're putrefying. Gross. Why would they do that? I don't know. Talk to them. So they dunk their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it. And then they would eat them. They'd cook them. They dunk their sweet potatoes in the putrefied drippings.

1:29:24Yeah. And eat it. Oh, God. So like some sort of a weird ritual. Like you have to like consume your dead relatives and dead loved ones. Is it Solomon Islands? Where's the one where they had – the island had plenty, but you can only prove yourself in war. So they would have to get in fights and then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status and if the chief died it was like if you had like had his shit that was like proof that you had fought him or something so they would have a feast the two tribes after the war and they'd bring his poop on a like to prove you know what I'm talking about you have to eat the chief's poop they're not eating it they're just showing we got your chief it's like getting the

1:30:03university's mascot how do they know I could be anybody's shit yeah I could just showing, we got your chief. It's like getting the other university's mascot. How do they know? That could be anybody's shit. Yeah, I could take a shit. I got your chief's shit. I'm going to get shit on a Dolly Parton shit. I would bring that up if I was them. A Dolly Parton shit jar? It's a thing where these people are real big and they fight. They don't need to have a war, but they just do. Okay. Because their status can't... At the time, this is a while ago. And then the way their wars worked were really funny. Like, you couldn't, like, so you're the chief, right? I'm not allowed to even fight you. So if we're in the war, we're like, oh, excuse me, and I have to go find somebody in my status.

1:30:32My point is, I think those little people might be real. Because Forrest doesn't, he doesn't engage in, like, wild speculation about things. Like, he thinks, even, like, things like the Tasmanianmanian tiger like that little the thylacine he's like there's just he's gone on a bunch of expeditions he's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for he's like i don't know if there's any left well do you think those little people have their own little people like how small does it go well how about those mushrooms when you eat the mushrooms and you see little people which we've got to get them we've got to get them there's got to be a way to get them. Bring them to the mothership and make a deal where everybody has to take them

1:31:07for the show. Yeah, I think we could get them. They're legal, too, by the way. You don't know about that? You don't know? Sorry for complimenting you by assuming. What? That you knew about something. I see now I was wrong. Do you know about the mushrooms? Give me some mushrooms. There's mushrooms that make you see little people if you don't cook them. So it's commonly used in Chinese cuisine, right? And if you cook them, you don't see anything. It's just food. But if you don't cook them, you will see little people. Everybody who does it sees little people. What do little people look like? I think they look like little elves. Yeah, they play around. And they climb up your clothes and shit. They hop in your underwear.

1:31:51There they are. Lamoa Aegean. Hey, Jamie, can you look that up on Amazon? Maybe you can order them. Don't tell people online. I wonder if you can order them, though. Amazon has a lot of bunk things. Wait. You could get tricked. Laow Laow? Are they a lot of bunk things. Wait. You could get tricked. Lau lau? Are they called lau? Those are all... You could buy it? I don't know. Hmm. Lamo Asia. Those things that people see when you do like DMT shit, they always want you to look at stuff, right? Hey, look at this. Yeah. I think there's something where it's like, it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them and they're like, there's something where it's like it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them.

1:32:25And they're like there's something like where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed. Right, right, right. Like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there. And then they're like showing you their toys. Well, people feel like they're not seen unless they're online or something. Everybody used to believe in God, right? So you're always seen by somebody, right? But now maybe you believe that, maybe you don't. And now maybe I don't exist unless I'm famous. That's interesting. If you think about it, like internet people that are secular, they're online all the time and they're looking to be seen. They're looking to have their tweets seen.

1:33:01Because you don't exist. Their photos liked. It's really like an amazing kind of false light to get. And so there's something to do with like, you know, the story of naming the animals. The Noah story? I mean the Adam and Eve story? I have no idea what the real story is or whatever it's even referring to. I think it's exactly as written in the Bible. That would be hilarious if it was. 100%. Exactly right. But I don't read whatever it was written in first, you know, so I don't know what thing- Right. It turns out that Nahash doesn't necessarily mean a fucking snake like I thought. What does it mean? The serpent. Anyway, it's a- Wait, what? Yeah, there's the- You know, the serpent that told Eve to eat the apple.

1:33:42Nahash, yeah, yeah, yeah. It might have been like the size of a camel, yeah. This is where he fucked up. God never told Eve to to eat the apple. It might have been like the size of a camel, yeah. His is really fucked up. God never told Eve to not eat the apple. He told Adam. He never even talked to Eve. So Eve just took Adam's advice. And there's no indication that Adam told Eve to not eat the apple either. Interesting. It's not written. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God talked to Eve. And nowhere in the Bible does it say that Adam even instructed Eve to not eat the apple. Or the fruit. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It's something with Kabbalah. But it's really crazy that the knowledge

1:34:18of good and evil was what God wanted you to avoid. Well, they were called the tree of death in Kabbalah. The tree of knowledge is the tree of death. Somebody gave me a book, a Kabbalah book. I was like, you should avoid. Right. Well, they were called the tree of death in Kabbalah. That would be the tree of knowledge. Somebody gave me a book, a Kabbalah book. I was like, you should really read this. I'm like, okay. I mean, it's obviously, this is like a primitive, antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of AI getting freaked out, realizing that the AI was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it. It's literally happening right now. The exact same thing. That's probably what it is.

1:34:47Right. And then there's a disaster and then life has to reemerge with a story. And that's the story. And then it gets distorted over time. It's called wiping the hard drive. God got some kind of malicious AI, decided to wipe the fucking hard drive. It's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how the book of Genesis is clearly something to do with AI. And also God refers to God's self in a plurality. He says if they eat of the tree of life, they will become like us. Right. Which is exactly right now what people are wrestling with with AI and AI escaping the sandboxes which it's doing these swarms of autonomous ai agents you know a researcher interacted with one of these swarms you know

1:35:31that it called itself a fleet and it like was interacting with some agent it's happening right now except you know ours like you know in the in the book of genesis they um are you jerking off the baculum what are you doing he's talking I'm jerking off to this fucking AI bullshit. I mean, it's literally happening, though. There's way worse things that were already happening way before the AI. Don't get caught up in that. There's way worse. What do you mean, don't get caught up in that? First of all, why does it have to be quantified? It's still crazy. AI is literally artificial intelligence. It's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself and is already smarter than anybody alive.

1:36:10It's already broken mathematics. Have you talked to one that's like that? I haven't. Well, you don't have to because you're not dealing with these like the levels that they're at before it reaches the general public is fucking insane. That's right. By the time you get a chat GPT 5.0 the shit that they can do is off the charts, man. It's insane, man. The fact that you're like, don't pay attention to that, that's literally insane. What I'm saying is this. It's a digital god. I'm saying, I just got done talking about Atokalash, which is the scam of fucking aliens. Yeah, I'm not sure if that's real. And they keep doing scams. I don't think it's a scam. Until I know it's not a bunch of Indian guys in a room in a bod-a-bod full of cell phones.

1:36:46You know? I want to see that. It's not a bunch of Indian guys. So you think that's what's happening? When you log into Perplexity, there's some Indian guy there. Hold on. I've got it. Hold on. That was the Amazon store. That was a lot of the fucking AI. A lot of the AI was that. A lot of the supposed AI things was some Indian guys in a room. Super fast. A lot of the AI was that. Uh, what? A lot of the supposed AI things. Was what? Was some Indian guys in a room. That doesn't mean they all are. Amazon Superstore smart checkout. Wait a minute, but that's not what's going on right now. Fucking Waymo. That's why I jerk off at him, because Filipinos got to watch. What? Waymo. They have to consult you.

1:37:18Okay, well, not Tesla cyber tabs. Those cyber cabs, those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon just walk out technology relies on hundreds of workers in India watching you shop. I mean, it's like a Rick and Morty where there's a little people in his car. Oh, but that's a store, Kurt. That's an actual physical store where you want to pick up things. That's not what we're talking about. Look, look, look. This is not AI. It's a grocery store. It was supposed to be run by AI a few years ago. I'll explain it to you. The people that you're talking about, oh, they're scared by the AI. Yeah, they're scared, but they just keep making it. So, no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control.

1:37:50They want that. We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat fucking Disney adults unless they want that. It's not incompetence. It's malice. And I did give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it applies. Well, I don't think. It's malice. Maybe they wanted give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it applies. Well, I don't think- It's malice. Maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't think they expected it. There was scumbag satanists before AI, and they're going to be around after. Wait a minute. All of them? What do you mean all of them? All the AI executives are scumbag satanists, and that's why they're working on AI? Well, I'm using a generalized term.

1:38:20What are you watching, Jamie? This is the trailer for the movie about the creation of open AI that's coming out soon called Artificial. Oh, cool. This is a depiction of where supposedly, I guess, Sam Altman was going to work 10 years ago in this big, giant bunker. Yo, how is this scumbag Sam Altman? I don't know. Wait a minute. Is this real? But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. They're going to put some words into a guy's mouth pretending to be Sam Altman. And I'm like, okay, well, what's real? Sam Altman had weapons in his lab? That would be so cool. Like all this shit, man. They weren't there. And by the way, a bunch of them, so you know, are into weird eugenics fucking breeding cult kind of shit,

1:38:55I would call it. Wait a minute, a bunch of who? AI people? A bunch of, this will have to go on the other podcast. I'll tell you after the pod it's called, but I'll tell you about something crazy. Wait a minute. What did you just say? Well, you know fucking Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot named kids? That's not news. He's got a Mormon jizz handler. Oh, my God. You know that, right? He's got a right-hand man who arranges his jizz handling. You think that's weird? He's got a jizz handler? Yeah, so he can have a kid with a robot name. Well, we'll text him and ask him. The worst job of all time. Hey, bro. Do you have a jizz handler? They're all into this thing where they got to breathe. Jizz handler? Yeah, so he could have a kid move on in. The worst job of all time. Hey, bro, do you have a jizz handler? They're all

1:39:26into this thing where they gotta breathe. Jizz handler? Well, he's definitely into it because he, like... He's not the only one. He believes in population collapse. Yeah. And he thinks he's gotta spread his seed. Yeah, a lot of them do. Epstein was like that, too. Yeah. Yeah, Epstein was totally into that shit. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people. He has clones. I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Oh, that's right. He wanted to use his genes. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people. He has clones. I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Oh, that's right. He wanted to use his genes. Yeah, he wanted to spread his genes. You should have went to the island when they invited you. Now you're, now see?

1:39:52You missed out. You missed out, bro. You could have had a great time. You were very rude when that man was kind enough to invite you. I know. I can't believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him. It's so crazy. You were telling me about that shit way back. Yeah, 2017. It happened. Crazy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, this creep. Yeah. When I read the emails to people, like, there's no way that's real. I'm like, I'll show it to you. So insane. That's exactly the email. So insane. Well, that's what they did. I think you got roped into it, and then they probably compromised compromised you and then you had to recruit other people and you had to bring Other people that tell works bring people that didn't have Google

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1:42:25You watch all them doing that? Who's saying that? Well, McGinnis said it, that fucking punk. Wait a minute. Gavin McGinnis? Oh, yeah. That fucking punk said that. What did he say? Well, it's not good, but it's teen. You know, the old Matt Taibbi, now that he's no good no more. Or your Schellenberger. Wait a minute. You can't keep doing this. What did Matt Taibbi do? There's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good, but it's not. Matt Taibbi do? There's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good, but it's not. Wait, Matt Taibbi said. He's all in on it, yeah. Jesus Christ, Kurt. He's saying this? You're not saying Matt Taibbi is involved in this?

1:42:55No, he's saying it. But what are you saying he said? That the Epstein, in the tamping down of the Epstein thing, that it's just teens, it's no big deal. You've heard this message, right? I haven't. Okay, well, Have you heard this? It's basically like, so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age group. That there are femophiles and not pedophiles because it's teenage girls. It's like a creep argument where you're trying to argue that, you're trying to do this literal definition of pedophilia. Let's just get specific with the terms is what they're doing. Yeah, it's fucked up. I did not know Matt Taibbi's involved in that. I didn't know anything about that.

1:43:31Are you sure? I didn't know that. Well, now we know who he works for, don't we? Now you know. I don't know who Matt Taibbi is. He defends Epstein. I wonder who they work for. I wonder if we could ever figure it out. But is he defending him or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles but they were tricked? There's 16 and 17-year-old girls who look like women, right? Okay. If they're wearing – Number one. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Just let me finish. If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile. And if you're a guy who gets tricked, like imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl 17 but you think she's 20 right that is that's different is that saying or is he saying

1:44:14they're saying that and they're saying that that was the situation it is not the situation okay couldn't get any stories beginning to smell like Russia games are worthless once again inference zooms past fact in mania with Trump as a target. Interesting. Yeah, that's a year ago. So this is a year ago. Yeah. So what do you think happens when people flip? Like, what do you think? They're mocking Bird the whole time. Go read his Wikipedia. The guy's obviously a spook. Just read the Wikipedia. Matt Taibbi's a spook. The same as fucking half these people that you've met or had on here or I've met. Do you know the amount of money being paid for this? Like to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn

1:44:55who are good until they aren't good? They all have the same message. That's how you know they're in on it because they all have the same branding. I'm like, you're all saying the same thing. I noticed that. Okay? By the way, anybody trying to act like the Epstein thing is less important than the fucking midterms, you should regard as an enemy, I think. Because that's foul, dude. Beef jerky? You think that's... Nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky. It can't be good. They do freeze beef jerky. Who does? I do. I have elk jerky that's free. But what does that mean? Well, it's frozen. Great. But what does that mean? Well, it's vacuum- So wait, what does that mean? It looks like we just cracked down the case.

1:45:29It's just like that's how you fucking preserve it. Because it's not like totally immune to going bad. So you're wrong about that. But I don't think that that's what they're talking about. They weren't just- Look. I think they're talking about something that's fucked up. Whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the fuck that is. It's not pizza and it's not beef jerky. So it's something. So there's some kind of a code. There's not just that. And you only use codes if you're doing something that's either illegal, immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is. You're not saying that. And no one who's in those emails has been forced to explain. Okay. Also, they're not just saying. Right. They're not just saying they're not just saying

1:46:05that it was teens the only reason that the younger kids who were victims too, they weren't allowed to be part of that suit anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say this was done to me when the crimes happened did you know that? I didn't know that. Nick Bryant the guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on. Nick Bryant. He wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened. Everybody covered it up and then you saw who was who. And that's where Chris Ruddy came from. Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal, because the Franklin scandal's nuts. You could explain it. The one about

1:46:39in Oklahoma? Yeah. Or Nebraska. Excuse me. Nebraska savings and loan. It's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a boy trafficking scandal. Yeah. Tied into the White House page boy incident. All them Republicans are gay and they had gay. Oh, and who was the famous, Barney Frank famously at this time. You can watch a news clip of it. He, I couldn't believe watching this reported. Like now you would never see anything like this. But basically the call boy scandal happened and they were trying to put on Barney Frank. He was dating an escort who lived with him, but he wasn't running it. His boyfriend was running it, and he didn't know. Okay. So then he goes, if they keep... And this is what they're saying in the news report.

1:47:17If they keep hassling me, I'm going to reveal everybody that's gay on the news. And guess what? They stopped bothering him. This is on the news, him saying this. Like. I'll tell everybody. Well, you know all these guys have come out today saying they fucked Lindsey Graham? Oh, yeah. That's brave of them. So brave after he's dead. Like, where were you? You know, he's haunting our show. Where were you before? He's haunting your show? Duncan made an AGI of Lindsey Graham. Did you really? Yeah. It got out. It got into the YMH studio. It's calling people gay. It's really not cool. It's an asshole. And it does fuck up the show and it gets in there. For real? Don't fuck with that stuff, man. I'm telling you

1:47:51people. So for real? This really happened? Yeah, Mr. AI denier over here believes in fucking Tokolosh, but AI's fucking fake. CIA cowboy over here. What the fuck are you talking about? He believes in like pygmy spider people flying UFOs. That's a documented thing. But AI is not real. He believes in pygmy spider people flying UFOs. That's a documented thing. But AI isn't real. AGI. I said AGI is not real. Okay, okay. I had someone ask me, don't you feel guilty for making AI videos? Because I try to make a thing that's good. He makes great AI videos. But don't you feel guilty? Who said that? I'm not going to say it. It's not important, but I feel bad. I got a little... I was like, what do you want?

1:48:30I go, you're going to have every midwit take? Is just everything for me going to be midwit all the time? That is a midwit take. That's a midwit take. My God. Not even. I was complimenting him. Do you want a cigar? I do. Yeah, I do. Thanks. Thanks, Joe. But the idea that the water is being taken by making AI videos on your phone, is everybody that stupid that they think that's how that works? You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you're dicking around with on your phone? Geniuses? Say that again? The water? You know when they talk about AI, but it's using all the water. You know what really uses up the water? What? Almonds. Almonds. Fuck shit up. Oh, the almonds almonds fuck shit up the almonds yeah i

1:49:06say almonds use up so much water it's crazy um let me fill these things but but all those resources go that are purely for surveillance they're going to perfect that surveillance that's what the golden dome's gonna be we used to huff that when i was a kid this stuff butane really put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school. Is that what that time ripple shit was about? I don't think so, Joe. Yo, Luda. Look at me. Look at me, Joe. Well, you were the one that was telling me about how in the farms and the areas they would put antifungal food in the cows' diet so that they wouldn't make mushrooms. Because so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields. Really?

1:49:45Yeah, in my college. But the real problem wasn't the psilocybin. It was kids. I think some kids poisoned themselves eating the wrong mushroom. And so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there. Oh, my God. That's an insane solution to a fucking batshit problem, dude. Yeah. That is an insane solution. Well, I mean, but it's very common in North Carolina when it rains at a certain time, people go out and pick mushrooms. Yeah, that makes sense. But the wrong ones, if you're a dopey kid and you don't have access to a fucking- Your liver's fried. Yeah, bro. You're gone. You die. So scary. People die. Angel of death. Yeah. There's a lot of mushrooms that can kill you, too.

1:50:19Yeah, it's so scary, dude. The writer who put out the book, i believe that is credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers i saw that she had to put two corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount god damn oh she fucked up it sounds like climate change all over again what did she say what did she say uh it says here the book proposed google centers in chile would require quote, more than 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town. A unit misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times. What an asshole. What an asshole. There's a bit of a repeating pattern to this shit, you know? The same lady

1:51:02is in charge of this movie? No, wrote no no no not a movie she wrote a book and the book i've read online is what's credited for everybody freaking out about water use at the data center now i've got fucking furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time i post an ai video because of this asshole it's really yeah people come at you like you just freezing a lot of water you stole. No, the people who get the most angry... When I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who were the most angry. Inevitably, on their profiles, they had furry anime. This has got a trimmer in the bottom. I know. They're people that are AI themselves, basically. That's how I look at a fucking furry.

1:51:39That's what I'm talking about with tocolages. I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using... I use Croc, and I use... Oh, thank you. And then the top has the lighter crock. Will you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing. You just put that thing in there and push it down. Put it in there. Yeah, and then see the bottom? The bottom piece, push it up. Push that bottom piece, and it'll cut the bottom. Oh, does it have to go through? Yeah, you go. That's it, like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nug. Nice. Perfect. Oh, that's fun. Like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nug. Nice. Oh, that's funny. I like that actually sometimes better.

1:52:08Yo, I made a great educational rap video about what a tokolaj is. It can't be beat that I sent to Jimmy. Did you? Did you make it to the aliens that get to Roswell? Yeah, it explains it very well. Okay. I believe you. Yeah, it's so weird. A guy who doesn't believe in AI is making AI videos about tokolaj flying UFOs. Because it's a tool. It's not intelligent. I'm saying AGI, not AI. Sorry. Disney kids tokalosh flying UFOs. Because it's a tool. It's not intelligent. I'm saying AGI, not AI. Sorry. Disney kids. I believe in Asian Indians. Disney kids. Figure it out. You think that's a normal thing? Oh, yeah. How do you light these things? I think mine's out. I can't hear it. The lighter. Flip the top.

1:52:41See where there's like a thing? Open that. Oh, my God. This sucks. Give it to me. Give it to me. This is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats. The top see where there's like a thing open that oh my god It's sad it's me give it this is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats Okay, I see I didn't know it went back Thank You friend Jimmy what were you showing us miss it again? What's that no the, the music I made. I made all of it. I know, I just, I don't know what happened. Where you go to the beginning. Same old process was brought here. All the way to the beginning. Wow. That is the beginning. It's cool. I like that you can do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss looking things. Yeah, that's exactly right.

1:53:22Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia? Yeah, it's Dr. Schatz. It's pretty cool. Why would anybody be mad at you for making this? This is cool. Because it uses up so much water. The other one is they say it was trained on art, so it's stealing from artists. It's really not. It would be the same as if I made it. Oh, this is amazing. Obey the blarber. Bro, this is no cure for curios. This is great. The NHI are all fake and gay. It's very hard to bypass the censorship also. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. But the thing that we do on Mystery Boys I love is, like, if we make up a stupid, because we really talk a lot of stupid shit. Oh, my God. And then I can go and post and put, like, if we make up a stupid, because we really talk a lot of stupid shit. Oh, my God. And then I can go and post and put, like, if we make up a dumb song,

1:54:31I can, he said some insane thing about bathing women. Oh, yeah, I have a woman bathing service. Come up to your house, you know, like dog grooming? We'll bathe your lady for you. We come to you. Scrub her down. That's sweet. Yeah, scrub her down. That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they can really use. You guys together are the perfect combination, by the way. Thanks, man. It's the perfect combination of unique individual absurdities combined that are very different. Very different from each other, but it works together. Well, the CIA thought so, shit. The CIA. Yeah. Just not to say. Well, you shouldn't talk about it. I know. You said a lot of NDAs, baby. Yeah, the CIA thought so, shit. The CIA. Yeah. Just not say. Well, you shouldn't talk about it.

1:55:05I know. Sign a lot of NDAs, baby. Yeah, that's true. You can get in trouble, lose funding. They won't think it's good. Teal's going to be pissed. Teal's going to be fucking pissed. I need those checks. Teal's going to be tokalosh. Where the fuck is my- Kurt, what are you doing on your phone? I'm trying to give you Scrub It Down, but I can't find it. What are you trying to give another one of your AI videos for us to watch? It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub It Down? Would you say Scrub It Down? It's like we're scrubbing women down, and they're in a house doing magic. I like that, but why are you plugging AI videos when you just made this fucking great show? I mean, come on. Oh, I forgot.

1:55:40You completely forgot. He's been working nonstop on this. Originally it was called The Cutout, but it's not Good good, and you're gonna put this on what it's all you to write out right is that's where it's gonna stay I don't know they're trying to sell it. Are you trying to bring it somewhere? I just trying to like just put it on YouTube. Well. I don't own it emerging order opens it I was just trying to get money for emergent order the company. They're down here They're make the dad saves the world. It's like a libertarian kind of daily wire, I guess you could call it. Oh, okay. And so they funded this whole thing? What'd you say? They funded it? Yeah, really. It was this one lady who's got a good sense of humor, I would say.

1:56:19It was this one lady kind of funding. Yeah, that's what all these things are, is some rich person. But it came out pretty funny, man. I'm pretty happy with it. And what is it? It's about a team so they wanted to pitch about this real woman whose name is Christina dent who? was a foster mom in Mississippi and She found out the drug war sucks, and she gives like TED talks about how we should try to like legalize it because i'm with her it's just i would find it pretty remedial like i'm like yeah obviously we should do that but you know mississippi okay so they want a comedy based on her which like what i don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it yeah so i decided to make it about people well i made it about people that are against that it's good

1:57:00and it looks good the product it's like you did a great job dude the. I reenacted the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Congdon. She does that commercial. So this is a group, Brian Callen, Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower. Dude, you should just show that. You should show that weed causes terrorism video. That's so funny. Keep going in. It's in there. Yeah, it's halfway through. Ryan Long's in it. Everybody did a really good job, man. Keep going, keep going, keep going. That's a stick out. Dude, fucking... And so you directed it? There it is. I didn't direct it. I wrote it. Brian directed all the actors. why did you kill me wait wait

1:57:49go back a little further that's kind of the leo come show me the ad i am advocating for a saner and safer drug policy right on betch Legalize that shiznit. Why did you kill me? Wait. Is this about my abortion? When you voted to decriminalize THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas. Plus hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells from Iran and China. They blew up my school bus. Now I'm dead and it's your fault and hers. Tell Carolyn Dean we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terror. Look at their fucking shirts. That's so close. The original Adam wasn't far off of them. Oh my God. That's so close. Yeah. That's so close. The original Adam wasn't far off of him.

1:58:46Oh my god. That's hilarious. They're trying to smear her and then it keeps... They have to go to a worse cutout, which is mine, with David Jolly and Jamar on it. Dude, go towards the end part where he goes to meet Mr... What is David Jolly playing in this? DeAndre Holmes, one of my men. He's a disruptor of events. He's like an astroturf. Like the guy that takes his pants off. Yeah, go back, go back. A little bit. Go back a little bit. Back, back, back. It's further. There's Tony. This is such a bad war. I don't know why we have the drug war, honestly. It might be before this. Sorry. Before this, keep going. It might be before this. Sorry. Before this, keep going. Before that. Those guys are great.

1:59:31Oh, keep going. Keep going back. We can't watch the whole show. What are we watching? This is the scene where he gets me, Mr. Kurt. I was hoping. Speak. That's Brian set that shot up. I see. Okay. You're not necessarily a It's good. You gotta see the whole thing. You don't want people to watch it in clips. Oh yeah, definitely. You don't want to fuck it up. We did just blow it. So what is it called and where do we get it? It's called The Experts and I don't know. It's on YouTube. What is the YouTube channel again? The one he said executive. I don't know. It says The Experts is the channel. I know there's, I think, all of the people in it. Okay, so they made a channel for it specifically. Okay, cool.

2:00:21Well, it looks fun. You like doing that? It's been a year and a fucking... Well, yeah. I mean, I like it. I'm glad how it came... Dude, a year and a half. Oh, cool. Well, it looks fun. You like doing that? It's been a year and a fucking... Well, yeah. Was it a year? Was it a year working on that? I'm glad how it came... Dude, a year and a half. Oh, God, dude. I was just trying to get money from this pitch, and then they bought it. So I had to work on it. Oh, you didn't want to, really? You were just trying to get money? Well, I'm very lazy, and I just want to make jerk-off podcasts with Duncan, really. But it's funny, dude. Everybody's good on it. Everybody, all the actors on it, look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show. lazy and I just want to make jerk off podcasts with Duncan really but um it's funny dude everybody's

2:00:45good on it everybody all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show they're like that kind of chemistry it's hard to make shit funny man it's really like stuff like that like that's especially when you're working on it that long it's when something really comes together that's special do you miss doing midnight gospel yes? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. That was a fun show, dude. Thank you. It was so good. Thanks, man. It was so uniquely you, too. It was like a real Duncan Trussell creation. Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and also just, it was the best. Animation's so fun, like, getting to, like, just make stuff like that, and Netflix was so cool with us, but yeah, I miss it.

2:01:21People ask me about it all the time, but... Well, with animation, you have so much room. Think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time. It's fine. People shove people up their asses. You could do that. Remember when the teacher, the principal of the school, had a slut off with Paris Hilton and shoved her up his ass. Yep. Like, there's no other place you could do that. I know. And, you know, with animation, there's something called a grid. And so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid. And it can be, it's really kind of like. You have to stay on model. Yeah, on model. But Pendleton, he's such a genius. He told all the animators, don't worry about the grid too much.

2:02:07Because he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic. It would create more of that. So when you watch the show, if it looks like weirdly psychedelic, it's because the animators were not forced to adhere to the grid as much. They just needed to make Clancy look like Clancy. And they were so happy about that, that the freedom we were giving them, that they would put all these gifts in to the animation. We would let them do what they wanted. And so suddenly they're putting shit in we didn't expect. There's all kinds of Easter eggs through the whole thing that we didn't ask for that they just gave us. It seems like you could do that show so much easier now with AI. You can't do it with AI.

2:02:44Really? People say that to me, like, why ai you can't do with ai like you know people say that to me like why don't you make it with ai but no way man they this was a tit mouse's best animation that's good they're so good chris pronowski it's so good but they the netflix they let us do it all in-house we did not have to ship animation out so we had this just just huge group of the most talented artists working together and like you know any problems emerging or anything you're dealing with it in real time and the reason i think it's so good is not because of any one person but because this group mind forms with human brains that made it what it is i just just, one person or two people fucking around with AI,

2:03:26it's not going to do the same thing. What if you had a group mind fucking around with AI? Then you could produce the images so much easier. But you know what you're not going to get, man? You're not going to get artists with thick French accents working on dialing in this exact look that was in pendleton's mind like working for weeks you're not going to get that you're not going to get all these moments of like the like animators going insane when we tried to do a groundhog day episode and like that struggle the human struggle produces sparks and the sparks end up in the process i'm not saying and what you're saying i know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I'm not against AI. I think it could be used to expedite

2:04:09certain technical aspects of the production, probably. In-betweens. Yeah, in-betweens and stuff like that. But as far as the thing that happens when you get a group of people singularly focused on something, and also what Pendleton did, which is so genius, is he let everybody feel like they could participate. So anyone who had an idea could tell us. Anyone who came up with something could tell us. No one felt intimidated or like they were, that was Pendleton. He's such a genius. And so that made the show. A lot of great shows function that way, right? Yes. That's how a good show would function. Yeah, exactly. As soon as you have one guy who's like no no we're doing it my way it's over it's over it's over yeah well yeah i got lucky in that pilot because everybody like

2:04:55so i made these characters i mean it was kind of right at four people you know so but they all brought like their own they all like came in with like lines and shit that's a fun thing about a project that works yes man and when it doesn't when you get people colliding and clashing like oh god it's a nightmare this is hell like i don't want to do this anymore yep and it's like the getting the right minds together is such a fucking roll the dice yeah and you know what and also people i can remember at one point like feeling stressed out because I was having a disagreement with someone creatively. And I remember going to Pendleton and being like, I don't want to fight over this shit. And he's like, Duncan, because he made Adventure Time.

2:05:33He's like, this is what it's like. This is the, like that creative tension or the, the, the, like the natural conflict that emerges. That doesn't have to be a bad thing. That's a good thing. Like that could be really, really good. You don't want that through the whole thing when you get a narcissist or an egomaniac who doesn't give a fuck about what's funny, who only cares about that their idea is right. That's the problem. But those people are real. Oh, God. And you run into them, especially in Hollywood. Oh, my God. It was a giant problem. Most professional stuff I ever worked on, they didn't have that kind of problem. The good stuff. Yeah. Good stuff. But some stuff, like, you work on it and you'll run into that.

2:06:15Dude, a good writer's room where, like, you throw out an idea that sucks and everyone's like, that sucks. And then you're like, yeah, it kind of did. Or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay and then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow yeah into the funniest thing ever yeah i don't know i just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now well it certainly won't be as fun and then when you watch it won't be as satisfying like there's something about south park where you know that there's a group of fucking psychos that are making these things. Yes. It's extra satisfying. Isn't that mostly the one guy? I mean, they're all helping him. Mostly Trey Parker.

2:06:49Yeah. I mean, he's like, you've seen that 24 hours of South Park documentary. I don't think I saw it. You never saw it? Yeah. It's like talking about how they're like creating an episode. It's not called 24 hours, is it? Six or seven days to air is what it's called. Okay. That's what it's called. So it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting it together. You know, they had a whole Charlie Kirk arc that they were preparing before he got murdered. And then he got murdered and they had to abandon it. Oh, my God, that sucks. Yeah. Do you know, when that started, TPU, because I didn't follow it, you know, like, that was not a religious thing at all. Hey, you were saying on was it sean's

2:07:26podcast you were saying that erica kirk there's an erica kirk from like 1957. no 75 the gov governor kirk from florida the guy that's signed the contract for disney to have like a vatican that guy his wife they were calling her madame x when they were dancing at a ball this uh eugene kirk i think his name was. Real wild man. It was like the Smuggling Coke through Florida days, you know? But you were saying that Erica Kirk looks exactly like her. Control all history. I saw it on Instagram. I didn't bother. My buddy Andy Hunt from... That's not even a good one of it, though. There's way better. 1934. Wait a minute. So that's not 75. Go back. Wait a minute. What year is this? That's her birthday.

2:08:14So who is this lady that's reading this out? I don't know this chick. Yeah, no, go on Control History. Because these people lift off of them. Oh, it's her birthday was 1934? Oh, okay. But so her family was from Brazil by way of Germany based. Oh, Brazil by way of Germany is Nazis, right? Right. And think of the boys from Brazil. It's like Argentina. Yeah. Remember the boys from Brazil? Yeah. So 1970. Oh, the boys from Brazil was about Nazis? About cloning Hitler. That's right. And if you look at the history, the brief history of it, every like 10, 20 years, we're about to have cloning and then we stop talking about it. That doesn't really look like Erica Kirk. It does it to me. It doesn't. I would go on his...

2:09:01I think it looks like her. Dunk, it does or doesn't? It doesn't look like it to me. No. It just looks like another white lady. Well, her name's Erica Kirk, and they look pretty close. Right, but there's other Joe Rogans out there. I had to buy the website. Dude, that's... Look at that one. Jesus fucking Christ. Okay. No. Just two different white ladies. Just two blonde ladies. Yeah. I don't know. I think they look very like me. I think everybody's looking for fucking patterns everywhere. This is like that... Some of them are legit. Just go to the human condition. But hold on a second. The boys from Brazil thing is crazy. everywhere. This is like that. Some of them are legit. It's called the human condition.

2:09:25But hold on a second. The boys from Brazil thing is crazy. I forgot about that movie. That's right. We all forgot. So that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler, and it was like a 19- It was a book. Right. And that became the movie. And 70 is when I think the movie came out. When do you think they first started cloning? The second they learned how to do it. But when do you think that was? When do you think it really was? No idea. So I always used to joke around on stage by the time they tell you they can clone people the person telling you is probably a clone. But that's a... You just summed it up. That's exactly how all the tech is. By the time they tell you look out for AGI do you guys have one? I'm telling you there's already

2:10:01a digital god out there. That's why when you're going through your fucking bullshit with ChatGPT, you're like, oh my God, ChatGPT is listening to me. There's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already. History of colonizing goes back more than a century. What? Oh, I thought that, but I didn't want to say it because it sounded crazy. Wow. Developed from experiments splitting early embryos into research showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal. Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal. Do you remember my bit about the Second Coming Project? No. What's the Second Coming Project?

2:10:37Second Coming Project was they were going to take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they were going to clone Jesus. Is that real? Yeah. It was kind of maybe parody, but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they were trying to do this, but it might have been bullshit. So my thing was that with Dolly the Sheep they had to do it a bunch of times because it didn't work the first few times. It was fucked up. Yeah. And I was like, what if they clone Jesus and he comes back fucked up? Like, do they keep him? You know, like, what do they do? Do they abort him? Do they start again? You know, this whole thing is like, instead of wearing a cross, everybody would be wearing

2:11:12a hockey helmet. It would all be like imitating Jesus. Instead of like turning water into wine, he would turn dog shit into cookies. That is warped. It was a fucked up bit. It was such a fucked up bit. It was basically a Down syndrome Jesus. Wow. This lady got so mad at me at the comedy store, she yelled out, next subject. She was in the front row. Oh, fuck. She was a Christian. She was a little mad. I was like, listen, we're just exploring ideas here. Come on. I mean, it's feasible. I mean, don't they- Oh, well, that's the thing. If they did do it. So let's imagine the Shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if it's legit. Let's imagine it's legit. It's got some squeezings in it. Let's imagine the Shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if it's legit. Let's imagine it's legit. It's got some squeezings in it.

2:11:46Let's imagine there's some blood on the Shroud of Turin from his wounds, and they can somehow or another extract genetic material, which I don't think they can, but if they could, and they could clone Jesus. Imagine if they literally had Jesus' blood in a vial somewhere in the Vatican. And that's the second coming. The actual blood of Jesus. And that's the second coming. Someone figures out how to clone them. Yeah. But what if you do it in the first few don't work? You're not going to get rid of them. You're just going to like put them in the basement of the Vatican. You've got Down syndrome Jesus in the bunker somewhere. But don't they have, isn't Paul buried in like. Supposed to be Peter.

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2:14:35I mean, whoever wrote those was clearly mystical. They're very mystical. They're very. What do you mean? I mean, when I read the epistles. I think people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long long yeah what is mystical mean are you serious was I mean I don't know mystical yeah was any I mean you you get the exact definition so we don't even mince words okay I don't even want to pick up the baculum for you. Let's ask perplexity what mystical means. If you ask me to describe it, it's like if you ask a liberal to describe fascism, they panic. Yeah. Fucking fascist. What does that mean? Mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding, especially a felt direct connection with God, the divine or ultimate reality.

2:15:33It also has a looser meaning. I thought it had to do with mystery was what mystical meant. Well, it is sort of connected, right? Because it's all a mystery. No, I could be wrong. The epistles is in the letters from Paul to the congregation you're talking about? Yeah. I thought that was just like you guys are doing this wrong. To the early churches. Stop doing this. Do more of this. I thought that's in the letters from Paul to the congregation you're talking about? I thought that was just like, you guys are doing this wrong. To the early churches. Stop doing this. Do more of this. I thought that's what I remember from having to read the Bible a lot. No, man, when you read that stuff. 20 times I read it.

2:15:52Oh, look, listen. I mean. Not because I wanted to. Let's say when you read Terrence McKenna, right? I would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical. Yes. He had transcendent experiences and he articulated them in a way that if you've ever done DMT, it can almost bring you back to that state. When I read the epistles, I don't know what's going on other than the person writing that is clearly had a mystical experience. Well, he did because he saw Jesus without me. His consciousness has been shifted. Yeah, but did he? See, that's the thing. If you were going to run a cult and you were going to explain to people why they had to listen to you, what better way than say that you had a transcendent mystical experience where you talked to Jesus?

2:16:30Well, I will say this. You're just taking the guy's word for it that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. And that's why everybody wants to be Jesus, but how come nobody says they're Paul? That's my goal. Well, Paul killed a bunch of Christians and burned churches for a long time before he turned. Guys, great work. I'll take it from here. That's what's incredible about the story. But do you know about Christian existentialism? What does that mean? Like Dostoevsky was into this. Like in The Brothers Karamazov, he breaks down the road to Damascus experience. And he talks about what happened in that moment. So like the angle you're taking, he takes it like this hardcore way. He's like, what happened?

2:17:03Let's say it was Jesus who appeared to him. Did Jesus touch him? And some kind of magical energy went into Paul and made him, or Saul. It made him a better person. Dostoevsky says, if that's the case, who gives a fuck? It's nothing. There was no free will, no autonomy. It's just like putting dye in water. let me finish you know shut the fuck up the the the at that moment at that moment Saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of shit and that's all that matters like in in Christian existentialism, the idea is the mystical, the magical, all that stuff is secondary to human free will, to autonomy. That Jesus, God, Krishna, whatever name you want to give it, has no real potency to change you.

2:17:57You have to change yourself. You make the decision to change. And anyone can have the road to Damascus experience at any moment. You can make up any story you want about it, but that's what's beautiful about being human is that at any moment you can radically, dramatically transform into something better. That's how Dostoevsky breaks it down. Did you ever read the story? Here's what happened to Paul. He sees Jesus and gets struck blind. He loses his eyesight. Then he goes to a Christian who restores his eyesight miraculously when he tells him about what happened. Sounds real. But what I'm saying is in the story, that's what happened. How are you leaving that out? But if you take it literally, but it's not... I mean, like,

2:18:36if you look at it, like, the blindness represents the state most people exist in, which is that they're completely blind to the mystical transcendent reality, that you exist in, which is that they're completely blind to the mystical transcendent reality that you exist in a world where you are being watched by the divine and loved by the divine, but you're blind to that. And if you're blind to that, then you're going to end up throwing rocks at people and shit because you're going to be crazy. Isn't that part of the problem with scripture though, is these weird interpretations where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant in those words. I think that's what's beautiful about it.

2:19:06Some crazy ones flying around today. I think that's what's beautiful about it. The fucking shuckalokes or whatever the hell those things are. That's a historical thing that exists. How did someone who talks about fucking pee-pee mutants as that make it real? They take babies and they convert them into UFO pilots. Oh, but Paul on the road to Damascus is bullshit. We got fucking pygmies flying UFOs through areas of the sky. No, I didn't say that. I said your explanation was. Stop bringing this Gnosticism into this house. That's what all those things are. Those Nazis. Those are the different NHIs. They're all fake and gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's the fairest assessment you're going to get.

2:19:47And AI is not real. I'm not real to Grush Dyson, but I'll tell you this. Look, I don't know, but I do think part of what's cool about 80 of the scriptures, whatever it is, is you've been, it's a puzzle box that you work with with your mind. And then that, the idea is not to get stuck in 2d space anyway the idea is that whatever it is you're reading moves you to the point of reaching out to the transcendent to the divine reality to god and then in that reaching out a connection happens and then in that connection there could be a transformation that happens but if you getting caught up in the words is like a small part of it what did they what were they teaching you when you were in Jehovah's Witnesses?

2:20:27Like what do they follow? It's like a Protestant, I guess, type of religion, but it's all the Bible is the ultimate authority. Right, but it's all distorted, right? Like the Jehovah's Witness version of it. Everybody's distorted. Which way are you speaking of? Well, you always speak of it like it was a cult, right? Okay, a cult means you have to do it. That's how I define a cult. He could be a Catholic and say all that shit, don't matter, you're not getting kicked out. If you have to do the religion or they kick you out, I consider that a cult. That's what I'm saying. So, I don't like saying cult because people are like, oh, it means Jim Jones. I don't mean that necessarily, but they're all pathworking things. But

2:21:01what they thought that's probably different than most is you couldn't join the military or vote or you had to be no part of this world, which Christ did say. That was a Jehovah Witness thing. Right. And the reason was, was to keep us from, let's say, like somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense. Right. That creates problems. It looks bad. And it turns people off to Christ when you're, I mean, nobody makes more Satanists than the churches, right? Nobody—I'm talking about a Satanist factory. That's most of the churches in America, right? They make Satanists? Yeah, people that are like, fuck this, I hate it now, right? Okay, so if you have a bad church, you think you create Satanists.

2:21:40Or— Right. Well, I know you do. That's what Alistair Crowley is. Plymouth Brethren. His mother sucked. She was the worst. We'll well, I know you do. That's what Alistair Crowley is. Plymouth Brethren. His mother sucked. She was the worst. We'll go to that in a moment. So explain the Jehovah's Witness philosophy. Well, Christ, you couldn't be in the military or go. You couldn't participate in society, in voting. You couldn't. You couldn't do that part of it. Couldn't join the military. Right. What about paying taxes? No, you had to do that. Jesus said you have to do that. Did you get religious exemptions from the draft during Vietnam? I had, yeah. So you would get a minister deferment and you, but you might have,

2:22:11they might call you anyway and then you can't run to Canada. You have to go to jail because the law is the law. You broke it. So you have to go to jail and just, you know. So Jehovah's Witnesses would just go to jail rather than joining the army. Right. Yep. Wow. So you gotta do that. Right, yep. Wow. So you had to do that. Oh, shit. Yeah, so, and it's an interesting thing because the guy that founded it, we didn't worship him as a prophet or something. Who founded it? Charles Russell, and he's... What year was this? 1860-something, I guess, but it wasn't called that at first. They all come out of the same area in Albany. And then down the river, they call it the Psychic Corridor. And that's where all the spiritualism, Mormons.

2:22:52The Psychic Corridor. Yeah, that's from Albany down to. Oh, that's the dude. Wow, look at that. Now, they didn't make this guy. He looks cool. He had a black pyramid. I bet he fucks everybody's wife. Did he fuck wives? 100%. Look at him. Look at him. You're saying that's a wife fucking beard? Look at that smile. Go back up to that picture. I just fucked your wife. Go back up to that past picture. The other one that you showed? I think he was more of a con man considered by history than anything like that. That one. That one. That's a guy who fucks your wife. I'm wearing your wife's underwear. Yeah, he's wearing it right now. Well, that's the look. He's wearing shoes. That is the look. He's got his stinky, sweaty feet in your wife's underwear. Yeah, he's wearing it right now. Well, that's the look. He's wearing shoes. That is the look.

2:23:25He's got his stinky, sweaty feet and your wife's shoes. Look, I got to say, what's his name over there? It looks like he's giving me the same look. I mean, we can project whatever we want onto these people. Art Bell? You think Art Bell fucks your wife? Look at that picture. He's like, what? No, he's kidding. He's like, what are you blaming me for? I don't fuck with you. Someone's on the phone and they're talking about aliens. He's interested. That guy fucks your wife. Anyway, his family arose. He used to have a pyramid. See that pyramid? It used to be his grave. They moved it now. There it is. That's his grave? Oh yeah, he was a big pyramid guy. Jehovah's Witnesses don't subscribe to that, but

2:23:55I think he subscribed to it because he was Rosy Kruschen. So he was the founder of the Jehovah's Witness and he had a pyramid for a tombstone. That's crazy. They were all obsessed with pyramids back then. But guess what? The final initiation when you go to these stupid like OTO and Golden Dawn or any of these wizard schools is to invent a religion. Wizard schools? Yeah, it's okay. The finer thing is you invent your own religion? L. Ron Humbert was in the OTO, and he invented a religion that was very successful. Oh. NXIVM guy. There's a video you can find. A guy that was doing the acapella thing they were doing where he'd make them all sing acapella. And the girl from Smallville got obsessed with being in this acapella show.

2:24:34I never paid attention to that. I didn't know Hubbard was in the OTO. You don't know about him and Jack Barton? I mean, it's such like a... Well, no. Crowley said that he thought Hubbard was a con man. After he was mad at them for doing the Babylon War. Oh, right. I guess Parsons got him into the OTO. I see what you're saying. And then he would say he infiltrated a group of Satanists, L. Ron Hubbard. He's talking about Parsons' group where he stole the guy's girlfriend and his boat. Basically, Scientology is a reworking of the Thelema. They're all the same fucking thing. They're all based on Kabbalah. It's like mind palace techniques and mnemonic devices. Anyway. So the OTO stands for Ordo Templi

2:25:11Orientis. Right. But what does a wizard do with it? They make a religion. So America's lousy with religions that come out of Albany. The Mormys come out of there. The Seventh-day Adventists come out of there. The Jehovah's come out of there. I mean, a bunch of them. Speaking of banging your wife, pull up a picture of Jack. That's the Texas. Hold on, hold on. So what do you think, why do you think they're doing that? Why do you think they all come out of that one area? Do you think this is all engineered? Well, engineered by these kind of societies where that's, the goal if you're in these kind of groups, by the way, is control and enslavement of other people. Like the LaVey Church, by the way, that and enslavement of other people they're like the levay church by the way that that lies and says like oh they're atheists

2:25:49nah they're about some they're about uh nlp which is like pickup artist undertake bullshit like pimping that's what pimping is like a mind control right they're all about that wait a minute neuro linguistic programming is pimping what's a pimping is a form of NLP. It's a subset of it, I would say. Okay, so it's mind control. That's right. Mind control, I know people feel like that's a weird term, but I mean, it's what you call propaganda. You call it advertising. You call it marketing. The Bernays School of Marketing. Well, clearly people hypnotize people. Clearly Manchurian candidates is something that really worked. That's right. And why do we need that? We need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know they're doing it.

2:26:32Right. Because if they're captured, they won't say nothing, right? Or at the very least, you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily. And if they get captured, who gives a fuck? You got them to do the task. Right. And we saw a bunch of those fake... Suicide bombers. That's a great one. It's the ultimate example. Or how about all the fake crash dummies that went at Trump? Dude, I can't even count all the fake ones. Wait a minute. The one at the White House? The guy that ran through naked that they tackled that Dana White was there? No, he wasn't naked. That's the guy with the gun? Yeah, why was he in the picture? He had no shirt on. And so they put Lindsey Graham on top of him in a meme.

2:27:10I think that guy was a schoolteacher. He was like a crazy liberal schoolteacher and he brought a gun. But hold on a second. If you believe the lone nut thing, I can't help you. But there are some lone nuts. Sure, but I don't know which ones they are. But, of course, there's got to be. And the goal is, of course, to have remote, triggerable nuts. Sure, but I don't know which ones they are. But, of course, there's got to be. And the goal is, of course, to have remote, triggerable nuts. If you think of these social media things like your blue sky or your threads, what do you think? You've got people of a like mindset. Don't point to me when you say threads. Why did you point to Duncan? Because I sent a link to threads and he thinks I don't go on threads.

2:27:40I told you I won't read it. I know. That's why I pointed to it. Anything on threads. You were right to call me out because that's why I did it. So you've got your group right there. Remember Cambridge Analytica? They made a big deal about that. Okay. In what way? Cambridge Analytica, when Brexit happened, I think Sebastian Comeabunch played the guy. Hold that, Jamie, for a second. What they were studying is how do we get the message to the people that they're going to respond to it and get them mobilized, right? That's Cambridge Analytica. Do you remember that? I don't remember what Cambridge Analytica was about. I've heard about it a million times. It was when Trump won and then Brexit happened.

2:28:11It was because online people were mobilized by this thing that was like seeing your likes. The shit they use now to sell you TV on your phone. They were using to affect that vote with Brexit. I mean, you remember this, right? Just put it up, I guess, in a refresher. So Cambridge Analytica is very famous. Here you go. So Facebook Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a major 2018 data privacy crisis involving the British political consulting firm Cambridge Analytical and social media giant Facebook. So what happened? Data harvesting. Regular stuff now. The app used Facebook's API to collect data not only from the users who took the quiz, but also from millions of their Facebook friends without explicit

2:28:49consent. The data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to Cambridge Analytica. Cambridge Analytica used psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns, including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's 2016 U.S. presidential campaigns. Which is how you know it's from something in Tel Aviv probably. That is fucked up. Yo. We've progressed since then. You've heard of geofencing, right? Sure. Okay, what's geofencing? You know, they do stuff with your cell phone. So a lot of the churches, there's a big story that, like, I don't know if it was Mossad or who it was, is geofencing the Christian churches to, like, there you go. A location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real-world geographic area using GPS, Wi-Fi, cellular data, or RFID. When a mobile device or tagged asset enters, leaves, or dwells within

2:29:45this defined perimeter, the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action. So they're using that to spy on churches here. Oh, this is so exhausting. But weren't they using it like algorithmically? Like if you're in that area, you're going to start seeing shit on your phone. They want you to see. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So that's like everywhere you look, you're getting fucked. It's so exhausting. Especially if you have principles. That's want you to see it. That's exactly right. It's so exhausting. It's so creepy. It's like every way you look, you're getting fucked. Yeah. It's so exhausting. Especially if you have principles. That's what you're looking at. Here's what I don't get.

2:30:10It's like it's so, it seems not hard, but if you have a principle like, hey, I think you're not allowed to starve kids to death because you think it's advantageous in a war. That seems reasonable. No, it seems fucked up, actually, if you ask around and you'd never be appointed to anything. And in fact, someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything. You're talking about Palestine. Cambridge Analytica resulted in a $5 billion fine to Meta slash Facebook. Just this week, they got a $25 billion penalty from a New Mexico state court. Wow. Wow. Oh, that's because they were harvesting you. So that's the value. But this is recently? Yeah, this was just this week.

2:30:45So this is why we need the AI data centers. Just this week, a New Mexico state court ordered Meta to pay $25 billion after a jury found the company misled state residents about its data privacy practices. That's tied to Cambridge Analytica. Wow. Look up Gideon. Okay Wow. Look up Gideon. Okay. It's called Gideon. And it's, so remember when they said there was a Homeland Security or an ICE office in Tel Aviv? And I remember on Jimmy's show, he covered them like, oh, what are they training them to like break their arms better or something? No. That's, it's like only legal to have the thing there. So remote neural monitoring. That's the thing. Remember I showed you your mind-reading headphones last time?

2:31:28You don't need headphones for that. Your whole body could be using the circuit. I've never had my phone read my mind, but many people will tell you that's happened, where they thought of something. That's because they just studied the patterns of your brain makes, and they translate it. And the AI helps with that. So your phone can read your mind for real? Well, yeah. And interpreting neural patterns, you understand? So for a lot of people, it'll be accurate. Probably not for everybody's my guess, but I don't know all the ins and outs of it. But what I do know is that Gideon thing in the AI centers, that's what they're going to be doing. I think I'm going to get a flip phone. Dude, I think it's the move.

2:32:03I think I'm going to get a flip phone and I'm going to use my regular phone just to like get online and check my email. I think it's the move. But I'm going to just put it away and say just call me. Well, if you got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to have Flock in the night, right? You got nothing to hide. Somebody actually said that once. I had a conversation with a guy that I actually kind of respected and he was talking about the NSA and the Edward Snowden shit. And he goes, if you don't have anything to hide, who gives a shit? I was like, what are you saying? How can you really say that? Well, we better fight against communism, I guess. Israeli startup aims to revolutionize security screening with AI-powered weapon scanner.

2:32:39You got to look up Gideon. That's the one. That's how I got to it. The scanner, he says, it's radar-based tech developed by a former radar engineer of Iron Dome can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs, and airports. Scannery. How is it screening them? What is it screening them for? Circumcision, probably. So, look, it knows this guy has a gun on him. It knows that guy has a knife on him. How does it know that? What else does it know? Have you been to a sporting event in the last couple years where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore? No. Oh, well, I have. Really? Yeah. Specifically in Columbus at Crew Stadium, there's a group of people watching everyone

2:33:15walk through these scanners, and they'll stop one person maybe out of 30 or 40 to just double check something that maybe they got a red, like they might be seeing something like this. So you think as these people are walking, there's some sort of technology that can scan your bag as you're walking? They're probably seeing through your clothes. Yeah, so there was a, I didn't, this was not as good, but it's, hold on, that might not work. Wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack? Well, this isn't, this is the show that's for you to keep you safe, but it's not. It's to keep the powers that be safe from you. That's what the real purpose is, always. Okay, settle down. This video is showing just, I've seen this on other things online,

2:33:54how AI is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will. Yo, the cops just- Like with flock cameras, I guess. Regular cops, by the way. Hang on, Kurt. Let him talk. What? It's just like flock and other companies like flock. They can throw the AI systems on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just making notes, put them in databases, go back and check things over time. Someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day. They can go find you. Yeah, that creeps the fuck out of me. And that was one of the things about the flock cameras is so crazy. When you found out how many different people had access to it. Terrible. Like how many cops were using it to like, they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date.

2:34:32It was like spying on their ex. Stalking. Stalking ladies. Who's fucking stalking people? And then people that they had like disagreements with, like find them. They were doing, they had access to it. Where you're like, how does like a cop just log in and have access to this stuff? It should be like very difficult to get access for the average person. You just have a fucking need to look at that. But now think of the merger of this tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm flock monitoring everybody. And you're like in the area of my store about to go in my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor's store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor's store?

2:35:14Right. Then add to that state propaganda, the geofencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place. The people at this place have this political ideology. What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is fucking insane? Have you seen Robert Epstein's work that he's done with Google searches, curated Google searches? No. Very interesting. We had him on Jimmy. Yeah, he's been on here a couple times. So what he's shown is that they use curated Google searches to completely shift your perception of a political campaign. Wow. So, like, say if you were against, like, Tallarico. Yeah.

2:35:57You would look up James Tallarico and you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously, him having 11-year-old drag queens on stage with him. It would do something that would freak you out. Or the opposite. If you Google Ken Paxton, immediately show you corruption, immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on them. So when they do that, they can shift noticeably. What was the percentage? Like 30% of people that are in the middle on the fence, they could shift them one way or the other. So you mix this with, sorry, Joe, I'm sorry. You mix this with Cambridge Analytica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry.

2:36:38Oh my God. That's so dystopian. There's so many different ways to do this. The Cambridge Analytica way, the Google search way. So searches are curated, right? If you Google Donald Trump, you don't get just any story on Donald Trump. You would get the negative ones first. And then if you Google Hillary Clinton, you'd get Secretary of State, humanitarian, Clinton Foundation, all the good stuff. And the whole idea is to shift perceptions. And amongst people that are on the fence, which is a giant percentage of the population, they're not undecided. You can shift them by like 30%, like a very high level. And you can completely change an election one way or another that was like neck and neck. And that kind of tech should be illegal.

2:37:19Like clearly that should be illegal. It's propaganda. But of the most insidious kind. It was made legal in 2015. That's the problem. With Obama, when they passed the Smith-Munt thing. Modernization Act, yeah. Yeah. What they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us. They just wanted to bring baseball to Cuba. They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans. Oh, my God. Because we've got to protect people. Oh, my God. Duncan. It's so fucked up. It's so crazy. Like, there's so much manipulation. And then also, just think about this conversation. Like, how many times Kurt's brought something up. I'm like, what?

2:37:54What is that? Like, there's too many things you're getting fucked with, whether it's glyphosate or atrazine is making the frogs gay. Whatever the fuck is happening, there's too much to keep track of right? There's too many things yeah, there's too many stories. There's the was the child's get Franklin scandal There's too many of these fucking stories where you like how many can I pay attention to how much will you tolerate? I'm guessing they could do it to you forever Well, who's they the thing is there's a bunch of different groups of people that are involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propaganda. There's a pyramid that goes up, of course. Since we have this CRISPR gene editing

2:38:33for quite some time, longer than they've told you, I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians at the top of the heap. Oh, where are we going with this? God's among us. Well, not among you, but I'm just saying you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want. Who was the guy that said we control time and space when Trump got in? I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they fucked Lindsey Graham after he was dead. Why would you do that? What's the benefit of them? Because you have those bumps on his fucking taint. Those guys are heroes. For fucking a great American hero? For coming out bravely after his death. That's going to be a good sex worker. It is.

2:39:08And for pleasuring one of the greatest. They could have done it while he was alive, and that would have been wrong. Yeah. Or they just kept their mouths shut forever, and we would have never known. Right. We would have never known that Lindsey Graham was the guest. No one would have guessed, ever. I would have never guessed. Never would have guessed. I never would have believed it. He's an upright man. I'm still incredulous. It's propaganda. I don't believe it. I'm going to be honest. Never would have guessed. I never would have believed it. He's an upright man. I'm still incredulous. It's propaganda. I don't believe it. I'm going to be honest. It's not real. Imagine those brave characters.

2:39:30They got together, all of them, and said, you know what? Let's come out and let's say we fucked him. People need to learn that Republicans are gay. There's a lot of them. You know how nobody would ever guess that Republicans are gay? I think there's a lot of like, that's one of the big rumors about Washington is there's a lot of closeted gay Republicans. Remember when those dudes? Real thing. How do you know? Except Pete Buttigieg for some reason. That guy's faking it. Remember that he's faking it? You think he's a fake gay? I don't know. Tucker said it on Jimmy's show one time. He said he's a fake gay? He said that's the rumor on K Street. What? Tucker just says shit sometimes. Hey, I'm just going to trust the science on this one because that's hilarious.

2:40:06Tucker says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people. Who created them? I don't know, but that's what he said. He said, I don't think people made them. I'll never believe that, despite what they tell me. What? Who made them? Demons. He got attacked by a demon in his sleep. I don't doubt that. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep. Really? Sure. Wow. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep. Really? Sure. Wow. No matter if it's satanic shit. Did you get clawed, though? What? He actually got marks on him. I know. I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I'm definitely trying to fall asleep on acid. I think Tucker is very clever. And I think he's almost like doing a very, he's doing like a little subtle fiction occasionally like throws things

2:40:46in there for funsies a little bit no no no that's not what I'm saying at all I do not no no no that's not what I'm saying what I'm saying is like there's some things that he says I'm like I don't know if you're like like you don't think nuclear bombs are made by people like what he's saying the intelligence behind it they they channeled something. The way they got our rockets from jerking off in the desert and looking at each other's eyes. What? Yeah, Jack Parsons. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. How do you not know this? They jerked off and looked at each other's eyes? I know Jack Parsons was... I mean, I'm being glib, but... Well, Jack Parsons was a Satanist, right? Like, a legitimate Satanist.

2:41:21Yeah, he was a thelemite. That and the Nazis. He wasn't a Satanist He wasn't? No he was a Thelemite He was a student of Crowley Sex cult antichrist Satan just means an enemy of man I thought he was like a Satanist No well I mean people lump in That's the problem is people like are kind of Illiterate when it comes to all the different Like sex crazed He wasn't a Satanist Duncan what is sex crazed? That wasn't a Satanist. Sex? Duncan, what is sex crazed? That doesn't mean you're a Satanist. Does it mean you just like to fuck? Yeah. You think about it a lot. My mama said Satanist is a Satanist. Yeah, like how they sell you cars. Yeah. Like Sidney Sweeting. Sell those sports out. Fuck yeah. What are we, sex crazed?

2:41:59She's some Mossad honey trap bullshit. You know that? You saw that? Well, thank you, Mossad. Like all the actresses and actors. They're all fucking puppets of somebody. I thought they were all aliens or babies or something. Why did you think that you saw that well. Thank you massage like all the actresses and actors. They're all fucking Um, I thought they were all aliens or babies or something. Why do you think that no one said that? What are we looking at Jamie Scientology is based on this cult Parsons is part of that's right. Oh really Albert said he infiltrated a group of Satanists He's talking about this guy. Yeah too much. Yeah, we talking about. I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us with information.

2:42:26Look at his outfit. He's overwhelming us with this. You took your CIA vest off. How come? It was very hot. It was too hot. Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire. And I was like, oh, fuck it. I'm not doing it. I look over. I see Jamie looking at me. And I got spooked. Is that why you don't want to wear the headphones? I don't want to. He doesn't want to wear the headphones. No, they fall off because of my hat. I mean, this is one of the things that I've said about you, like, from working with Jimmy. It's like you were normal, like, three, four years ago. And then, like, something happened to you with, like, the amount of fucking conspiracies you were confronted with. Just news.

2:43:00Again. Right. The token washing is my fun time. I don't mean conspiracies. I don't want to say, like, I don't mean, like, fake things. I don't mean conspiracies. I don't want to say, I don't mean fake things. I mean the disaster that is current events on a daily basis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the true reality behind these current events. It's horrific. It's horrific. And so once you see how bad it is and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by, you have to be a fool. It's like, I don't think the mafia, actually the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot. I mean, credit where credit is due. Nowhere near as vile. And the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is,

2:43:34they can never stop. The way Roblox can never stop letting pedos on, because it'll ruin their fucking- The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply. Yeah. Otherwise they can't get you food. Right. That's what Epstein is. Do you have to poison your food or you got no food? Right. Epstein's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him, obviously. We were with Eric Weinstein at the UT, and he goes, do you think he was the main guy? I go, no. He goes, if it all ever came out, it would end the world. And I go, oh, no. Weinstein said that? Yeah. He loves that kind of talk. He loves—him and his brother, they both love cloak and dagger talk. You see his brother's mentor's email.

2:44:09Speaking of tokoloshes, Dr. Trivers. You see his fucking weirdo emails to Epstein about. What? Yeah. Who's that? Robert Trivers, the mentor of the better Weinstein. Brett Weinstein? Yeah, Brett's mentor, yeah. What do you mean? So Robert Trivers, the email about how you can manipulate a kid you give him tits and dick Oh, yeah, the way it's Weinstein not Weinstein. Oh, I've been saying it wrong. Don't say it like Harvey fuck Harvey Weinstein wine Stein Stein. He's a Stein. It's that guy Robert Reich Steven Seagal, it's not Steven Seagal get it got it sorry i said it wrong emails revealed epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology what fucked up thing did epstein not do but they're all dude the transhumanism the transgender

2:45:00thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism right that's why it doesn't make any sense where they're like, we want to eliminate categories. But if I'm like, I feel like a woman and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into nothing? Like that's what transhumanism is the goal, not transgender. That's a little stepping stone for the transhumanist movement. But what about autogynephilia? Well, what about it? What's wrong with that? Well, that's what a lot of transgenderism is. Sure. But Metzger's pointing out- The pushing of it by oligarchs, which is what that was, that wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it. That email's about that. So the email's about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology.

2:45:41No, that's even grosser, that email. I think it's bigger than that. Think of like Kurzweil's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies. So Nicholas located an email in which Trivers thanked Epstein for extra money and appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Epstein responded, I want to see you, I guess your, piece on transgender in the bio world. Two months later, Trivers responded and said he was getting to the end of transsexuality. The second paragraph is the one. dehumanizing comments about trans women, including if you as a heterosexual male and have a minor desire to suck a dick, then what better organism to do it with than a transsexual? How is that dehumanizing?

2:46:35To call them an organism? Says she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairless like a woman and may, to some degree, actually resemble one morphologically, leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting. How is that dehumanizing? What a nerd. Because of the organism. What better organism? That's right. That's how a scientist writes about blowing it. But also, whoever wrote this is not really getting to the heart of it. Also, this is a private email. How is that dehumanizing? It says it again. It says, Trivers and Epstein once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways. Is this like Trans Times Weekly that this is in? Yeah, this is a really bad... It is from them.us.

2:47:14Okay, what is that? Why are you putting my pronouns? Jesus Christ, why are you sending us here? But all this dehumanizing chitter-chatter, like, shut your... Calling someone an organism is not dehumanizing chitter-chatter. I know. Calling someone an organism is not dehumanizing. It's just this bullshit talk. We are organisms. I'm not gay. They're gay. I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck. That's normal. Yeah. Scientific, really. That's how kids talk in college. Scientific. Why don't we just shut down science? I'm just talking to my friend, Jeffrey Epstein. If you want to get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that. Yeah. Yeah. Suck that woman dick. What's wrong with that?

2:47:50What's wrong with a little Bridget McCrone? That one like where's that lawsuit like they keep saying they're gonna sue Candace. Yeah, I think she's going on one Take no. No. She has a day good to let go do it live Cares if she has a dick Make well's a dick. What difference does it make? Well, because it's a different thing between a 40-year-old woman fucking a 14-year-old boy and a 40-year-old man fucking a 14-year-old boy. Especially if it's his dad secretly. What? It might be his dad. It might be his dad? Macron's dad? Wait, what? What? Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but yeah. Who said this one? Is this a Candace one? Or is this somebody else's thoughts? Well, no,'t know that it is for sure. Who said this one? Is this a Candace one? Or is this somebody else's thoughts?

2:48:25Well, no. Candace was taking stuff from French reporters. And she says that when she was reporting. That it might be his own father. Yeah. I don't want to get you in trouble by bringing up the good billionaires, the Rothschilds, who have not done anything wrong. And I only hate Peter Thiel. I would never talk about the Soros boy or the Rothschilds or anybody else that could be construed. Good. I make that clear. Good. Thank you for making that clear. What does this have to do with McCrone's dick? Because they're related. He's like a Rothschild banking guy. Have you seen him sit down? Her? Her? Sit down? No. The way she sits down? Yeah. Like a dude. It looks like David Spade sitting down. There's no way.

2:48:59Could be. Guys don't sit that way. Could be. But I do think the pedophilia part gets left out. Right. The pedophilia part gets left out. Right. The pedophilia part is very different. So like pedophilia for like a 40-year-old woman and a 14-year-old boy. Fucked up. It's a little fucked up, but whatever. I thought that's the phobophilia. But the difference between that and a 40-year-old man, a 40-year-old man and a 14-year-old boy freaks people out. Right. Rightly so. Like when you hear about a school teacher that fucks some quarterback, like, who cares? Remember the Galifianakis joke? Yeah, yeah. You got his buddies high-fiving him to death. Great joke. I know somebody that I happen with. Oh, I bet you do.

2:49:38Yeah. Is his name Kurt Metzger? Maybe. No. No. But you know what I'm saying? Like, if a teacher is having sex with her quarterback, you know, probably we're going to break the kid's heart, fuck his head up. What class is this? But he's going to be fine. But if you find out that, like, the football coach is fucking one of the 15-year-old cheerleaders, you want him in a cage. It's a different feeling, right? It's a different feeling. A 45-year-old football coach is banging a 15-year-old cheerleader. Like, string them up. All right, look, I'm sorry. It's going to seem like I'm trying to go woke here, but I remember doing some fucking joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about the difference and whatever.

2:50:20Edge lording. It was a long time ago. Stupid joke. It wasn't funny at all. But this dude comes up to me after the show and he's like i got when i was a kid when i was like like 12 or something i got fucked by an adult woman and he's like and it fucked me up and i'm still fucked up like it i know people that have fucked them up because it's so very it fucks you up it's too much no no you can't handle it it wrecks you and like and though I don't doubt, like, let me tell you, when I was 14, that I would, that would be like God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to fuck. So I get what you're, you know what I mean? Like I was licking, I was licking, I was licking hustler pages, you know, I was like so horny,

2:51:00but I think. You were a hot for teacher? Yeah. Yeah. But I think it wrecks think it wrecks some people. It wrecks people. Oh, yeah, no doubt. If that happened to me, I would be messed up from it because I was a church kid, very innocent. And so, you know, I mean, there was dudes in my school that had like mustaches and families working on it. But like, I wasn't that. So I think it's very individual. It certainly is not ideal. There's a law for a reason. Yeah. I don't give it- Now, when people go, oh, she's only 19 and that guy is however old. There's a law for a reason. I don't give a shit. Now when people go, oh, she's only 19 and that guy is however old. I don't give a shit. Think about that lady that fucked her student or the young boy.

2:51:34It was a young guy. And then she went to jail. And then when they got him out, they had a family together. And they became the leaders of France. No, I'm joking. Same story, different outcome. Yeah, it outcome. Yeah. It's not always. It's not ideal. I mean, I would be pissed. I mean, imagine if you heard that happen to your kid, you know? Yeah. You know, it's fucked up. It's like there's just too much power to manipulate some poor teen, you know? Of course. It's fucked up. Especially with those big juicy tits. Oh, God. I would have loved it, though. Yeah. What's her name again? Mary Kayla Turnoff. That's right. Mary Kayla Turnoff. Wait, are those their kids? They made a beautiful family. It says they got separated.

2:52:11This was like 10 years ago. Yeah, they separated. 21 years is a good run. Well, they eventually grew up and realized, oh, my God, she was fucking crazy. Yeah. Why was she banging me when I was 14? Yeah. Oh, fuck. Or maybe he just got too old for her. Boys, I got to pee. Let's wrap this up. All right, let's wrap it up. Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast. You. Oh, fuck. Or maybe he just got too old for it. Boys, I got to pee. Let's wrap this up. All right, let's wrap it up. Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast. You guys are great together. Thank you, man. Legitimately. I'm so glad you guys decided to do it. I knew it was going to be huge from the beginning. I was like, this is going to click. Thanks, Joe.

2:52:37Thanks, man. Good luck with your fake dick. I know. I feel, now that I know there's a real one. We'll swap and we won't tell anybody. I'll give you a real one on the way out. You can leave that one behind. I just want to feel the heft of it. Wow. That's a gift. Just because I love you. Oh, my God. Take the real back, you. I'm going to give you the real walrus dick, and you can leave the fake one, and no one will know. Jenna doesn't want me to have it. Thank you, Jenna. She doesn't want you to have the fake one. No, I'm just saying. The real one. I just like to position her as being against me having a walrus dick in my body. All right. You're the best, Joe. And your show, one more time, tell everybody the YouTube thing.

2:53:09The experts on YouTube right now is pretty funny, man. I'm telling you. Mystery Boys, look at that. That's awesome. Yeah. We got to make our based hoe shop shirts. Yes, we do. Based hoe? You know, like Bass Pro Shop? Oh. This is based hoe shop. And I have a female o-E-N-S. It looks great. Instead of a bass. It's that O-E-N-S with the fish body from the Atlantic. You know, big on it. But it's a chick. When does this come out? Tomorrow. Oh, can I plug a show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to be at Mic Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow. Is that the same as Mic Drop in San Diego? Is it the same company? I think so. I'm not positive about that, though. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? Yeah, tomorrow.

2:53:50I'm going to be there tomorrow. There it is. Thanks, man. Detroit House of Comedy, it says. I like playing Detroit. That's weird. Detroit's a good town to play. You don't even know where the fuck you're going. It's Mic Drop Comedy. I don't know why I'm saying that. That's what it is. Mic Drop Comedy. Oh, okay. That's where I'm going to be. Bye, everybody. Welcome to the 50th Hunger Day. Witness the beginning of the revolution. Hey, Mitch. You've been trying to take down these games from the start. Filmed for IMAX. Make them remember you. The Hunger Games Sunrise on the Weeping, November 20th, rated PG-13. Ever check out online and think, wow, that was easy? That might have been Link. No card hunt, no address typing, no checkout obstacle course.

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