What did Joe Rogan say about David Grusch and Bob Lazar on the Mystery Boys episode?

Joe Rogan said he treats David Grusch's claims like any other story he is told, because Grusch has not personally seen a craft or communicated with a being and is passing on what he heard. Rogan finds Bob Lazar more persuasive. He says Lazar appeared on the Los Alamos employee register, knew where the classified S4 site was, and described its hangar doors decades before photos surfaced.

• Rogan recounts Lazar's description of a craft built for beings about three feet tall, with no visible controls and two separate generators.
• Rogan believes some contact with a non-human intelligence is more likely than humans building mind-piloted craft in the 1940s.

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“He hasn't had any personal experiences of note.” Joe Rogan · at 1:13:18 — open in the transcript →

Source: our own transcription of the episode. The full conversation is on The Joe Rogan Experience (2026-10-23). Read the whole episode summary →

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