The Queen of Halloween: Monday, November 2nd, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. They sound amazing welcome back to the toast and happy monday hope everybody had a festive and fun weekend we are your viral podcasters jack's claude oh my god we're so viral julianne derrick carianne carianne oh my god carianne what did she say oh no no no we have received comments from julianne derrick silence from carianne and i can't lie i understand like i wasn't expecting to hear from her and Derek. Silence from Carrie Ann. And I can't lie. I understand. Like, I wasn't expecting to hear from her.

0:47And I think it's for the best that we don't. I agree. But our Halloween episode was so well received. It was. It was probably the most fun I've personally had in years. Everyone loved it. I feel like we really have, you know, sort of re-cemented our place as the queens of podcast Halloween. And it's just been a great weekend being viral, you know? Yes, it has been. We had the Huff siblings approval, which meant the world. And we were worried about that. Yeah, but I think we did them justice. Of course we did. And then we had a fantastic hollow weekend. It was a great Halloween weekend. Hope everybody trick or trait ate. Oh my God, I ate so much candy. Did you? When I got home from Halloween I was

1:26starving when I got home from Halloween I was gonna throw up like an actual four-year-old like who ate too much and also like the party we went to had like ice cream and pizza and like I was eating churros oh my god I ate I was gonna vomit I was like actually going to vomit I didn't get a churro so maybe I had a chur what stopped me because I was seriously ravenous. Fantastic churro. Because with trick-or-treating, like when do you eat dinner? And the kids don't really eat dinner because they're just like excited and they eat a lot of candy. And it's just, you know, it is what it is. For the one night, a little red 40 got in there. It is what it is. I saw Jackie like pulling candy from the basket.

2:00Nerds, gummy clusters. I don't fucking think so. Just the things with dyes in them. No, of course. Nerds, gummy clusters i don't fucking think so just the the things with dyes in them no of course nerds gummy clusters and nerds gummy clusters like are i think statistically like the worst candy like ingredients but i'm actually letting them keep the most delicious things the wreaths chocolate bars the lollipops but i'm sorry like if i see dots like i'm tweaking it is the time of year where like those videos go viral of like either kids acting like menaces or, you know, the bowl is empty. Let me fill it up with my basket. Have you ever seen? It's so fucking cute. And I just want to say like Halloween has weirdly become this like morality test of like ethics because you see like people like actually like not only stealing all the candy, but damaging private property in the process.

2:43Like in the age of ring cameras what are you doing yeah then you also see like oh the person who comes after them picking up the pieces to put it back together it's literally like an american it's like such a classic american tale honestly it really is it's a classic american tradition it's so fun especially like with kids and as they get older and they can just like appreciate it more it's so cute like especially kids you know what i just want to say you know what i was thinking about over the weekend As they get older and they can just like appreciate it more. It's so cute. Like, especially kids. You know what I just want to say? You know what I was thinking about over the weekend? That episode of Kardashians where they're planning like one of the kids' birthday parties and Kourtney's like, well, Candyland, but like all the candy needs to be like organic

3:13or whatever. The way I felt like such shit after eating candy. I was like, honestly, Kourtney Kardashian's onto something. Like if you have the means to make a Candyland theme where everything is like made of beets and organic, like why wouldn't you? And it's like yum earth. Yeah.les why wouldn't you no agreed because the idea of actually having a real candy bar with like unlimited candy is insane my nightmare insane yeah I watched actually all the Kardashians I'm fully caught up I wish I didn't hear your recap because like I knew everything that was about to happen the sandwich coming in my mouth and like I you feel the same way about that scene? I wasn't able to experience it because I just had your preconceived notion.

3:48But did you enjoy that threesome? No. Newness. Oh, right. Newness. I tried to tell you. Oh, my God. And Ben actually came in during that part. And I was embarrassed to be watching it. Yeah. And Ben was like, I forgot how much I love this show. We were cracking up. First of all, Kris Jenner. Now, I i'm gonna spoil something for you in the next episode because i know you didn't watch episode four they go to solving it's like so boring you know they visit the bakery that makes all their gingerbread houses that go viral every christmas um and they do like a date night her and cory and she's like just can't believe i'm at the solving bakery i'm like girl you can go anywhere in the world she keeps saying i can't leave them here can't leave them

4:21here like it's literally a two-hour car ride your house. Like you've been to Japan. Like, so then after they go, they make gingerbread houses and then they go on like a little date to a winery. And Chris, what she said, it was so funny. I could not stop laughing. She was like, obviously drunk because she had been drinking. And she was like, I just feel like I'm on The Bachelor. They did like pull up to this like really Bachelor looking date with like a red carpet and a vineyard. She was like, I feel like I'm the bachelor. I just know I'm going to be sent home. Like it was so funny. I'm like, how do you know lingo from the bachelor? They love the bachelor. Oh my God. Chris is carrying the show.

4:52I had Golden Bachelor come and Kendall was freaking. You know, I feel like they go through eras where like different girls carry the show. Like Chloe carried it for a while. I'm telling you, Chris is carrying the show. She gets her own thing now, like her own chapter. It used to be like the girls and she would like pop into the girls. She got her own thing and I was enjoying her and Corey and Solving. I was. Okay, I'll have to watch. I will watch. It was seriously hilarious. I've been- Genuinely boring. The O's Pearlman stuff. But oh, I love- He comes back. The follow up, I know it wasn't good, but I love- And not that making O's look bad. But O, I think they overestimated what O said. Yeah, and they also like like, are getting confused.

5:26He's not a psychic or a... And he wasn't saying, like, something amazing is going to happen to her. He said she's going to call you and say the craziest thing happened. Yeah, but then he manufactured the craziness. Right, right. So you're not a mentalist. You're, like, a schemer. Just don't even. Don't insult O's like that. Well, they made O's look bad. That's all I'm saying. I guess. But they also hyped it up so much, like, they made O's look bad. That's all I'm saying. I guess. But they also hyped it up so much, like, they thought Khloe was going to get married in a week. Like, how many times do you call me and say, oh, my God, the craziest thing happened? And it's not that crazy. I don't know.

5:52I don't. When our sister Olivia calls and says I have the craziest news, like, seriously, don't move. She's so drama. She's always like. Stay standing. She always says, do you guys want to die? And I stopped getting excited, like, years ago because she's like, I just found out this girl from high school I'm like who cares if I say do you guys want to die I feel like I'm I try to reserve my good stuff yeah but you'll say like the craziest things just happen or like and it's like Ben getting in a car a road rage fight I guess that that oh Ben did get into a road rage fight during Halloween somebody accused him of drunk driving. And he spent the whole trick or treating talking about it. Telling the story,

6:27but we kept getting interrupted by like trick or treating. So like every time I came back to the group. He was restarting the story. Let me tell you what happened. I never heard the end of this story. He was like merging in a lane. He was in a golf cart and the person, there was a lot of traffic in the neighborhood. Everyone was trying to, you know, trick or treat. And so he's merging. And obviously, you know, merging is tough. He like swerved in front of the car you're in a golf cart you think and so i don't know if he was like he was probably wrong for like not letting the lady go aggressive yeah and then the lady honked at him and ben was just so aghast that someone in a regular car would honk at a golf cart person because like have you ever stood in front

7:00of a car when it's honking it's the loudest thing in the world he pulled over got out of the golf cart and rolled up and went to her window because everything was standstill traffic so and she rolls down the window she was like are you drunk he was like am i drunk are you nuts like he i don't know how it like what like wound up i think they just like called it quit and ben like alerted like one of the cops be like that lady's nuts honestly he sounded like he was wrong um they both sound nuts although you should really shouldn't honk i actually saw a tiktok that's really did i tell you this about the tiktok that i saw about honking yeah it's actually changed my my perception i was talking about this with ben over the weekend

7:36i'm a big honker like if you do something even remotely wrong like seriously die like i love to honk and so this tiktok being like you're like one honk away from jail or one honk away from the grave like someone can interpret your honk like these crazy people who like carry guns and knives and just like literally kill people over road rage you're one bad honk away from like life changing. Why jail? You never know. If somebody came at me, let's say I'm like. Or like. You never know. Especially I'll say in Florida. Of course. You do not want to mess with these Floridians on the street. No. So ever since I saw that TikTok, I've been really light on the honk. And I saw someone else saying, and I have felt that people have long been saying, there needs to be multiple different types of honks well the tesla has multiple honks

8:28because like i need you to know oh the light is green and we're sitting here to to or i need you to know you tried to kill me i'm gonna kill you like i guess you can change the length of the honk of course one thing about me i never honk never maybe if we One thing about me, I never honk. Never. Maybe if we're at the light and it changed, maybe I'll honk because my Tesla told me that the light changed and your car didn't. The Volvo does that. Isn't it amazing? You can really daze off. I could be staring at the light and still miss when it changes. Yeah. It's an amazing thing. It is. Let's talk about scheduling. Dancing with the Stars is on tonight. Yeah, and I'm recording the Redheads tonight.

9:06They've changed it. So I'm booked and busy. Because of Election Day tomorrow. By the way, make sure to get on vote. Make a plan. Grab a snack. I haven't made a plan. Have you scheduled a meeting with an elderly to take them? I guess I called Olivia. Oh. Ooh. And have you gotten your umbrella? Yes. Because actually it's supposed to rain tomorrow. I always keep an umbrella on hand, actually. Good, good, good. And so I guess they want to like not disturb the election coverage. So Dancing with the Stars will be up tonight. Because of election coverage. Yeah. Because that makes sense. And I just want to say I'm so looking forward to Election Day because I haven't even talked about the fact that like watching Dancing with the Stars during election season has been one of the great nightmares of my life.

9:44I know all the commercials by heart i know the entire i know what's going on in florida i know everyone like it's insane i've only watched like three episodes here but i watch live and it's on cable nightmare fuel like seriously he accepted two million dollars from developers like these people are fucking nuts like i and there's such low blows. Such low blows. Doll of honesty still separately. I don't even know these people. And someone else was like, Republicans hate him. Democrats hate him. And I'm like, oh my God. Everybody hates him. His mother hates him. Like, I need election time to be over so I can go back to watching Dancing with the Stars peacefully. The commercials are actually like nightmare fuel.

10:24Have any candidates stood out to you? According to the commercials, they're all terrible. It's true. They're like, I'm for Florida. I'm like, okay, are you? It's insane. It's a heated race. And the governorship. Governor, Congress, I know everything. But I'm also getting local city council. And that's really where it gets drama. The city council. They go low. That's below the belt. The city council. For sure. No, I do have to make a plan. I'm getting Botox tomorrow. So they'll never be able to guess who you're voting for. So should I vote before the Botox? I guess I'll have to make a plan and see on the map. Is it on the way to Botox? You don't want to overly emote either. and voting can be an emotional experience show up with like

11:08needles like they will they let I guess they let everyone vote right oh please right I've seen some of the craziest people at the polling place yeah oh and by the way that's the point the way that like road rage like shows the worst when you're waiting in line to vote I've actually gotten into fights at my polling center um over like Romeo of course. People are such narcs, especially the people that like sign up to be like voting, like polling place. Poll workers. Which is, by the way, I just want to say like a selfless act, but it does give them like a sense of entitlement. And like, yeah, I would never do it. So like, yeah, I guess technically you are better than me, but like, calm down. We're all equals here.

11:40Yeah. Like it kind of shows the worst of people on election day. I feel like in New York more so. I've gotten into a lot of fights. New Yorkers are a tough breed. And like two elections ago, I was. And you like to fight, it sounds like. I was in my first trimester and there was like an air conditioning issue at the polling center and they were yelling at me about Romeo and I was wearing this big wool coat and I had to take a seat. And it was just like, I have a lot of voting trauma. But look, I still show up. It's so important. It's pretty relaxed down here, I think. It's it's so important you guys but i do have to make a plan thank you for letting reminding me that's what i do um we're recording redheads tonight

12:15we're reading the new book from barbara kingsolver does that name mean anything to you does that name mean anything it means everything does that mean anything to me i Does that name mean anything? It means everything. Does that mean anything to me? I literally invented Barbara Kingsolver. Barbara Kingsolver wrote Demon Copperhead. Really? A book that won a Pulitzer Prize that I also read. Probably the only book I have ever or will ever read that also won a Pulitzer. And enjoyed. Oh, I loved it so much. It was so amazing. So her new book Partita just came out. Oh, I saw you posted it. I didn't realize it was my girl Barbara. Dana's Choice. I actually had to, I was in the middle of it's about appalachia no it's about it's about a woman

12:50and did you just stop being so descriptive like it's overwhelming i'm gonna tell you no no because actually i like i have been known historically to read barbara i'm in the middle of it right now and it's really i will wait to see what happens at the end but it's really less about the plot and more about the writing and I know that you hate that I do but for Barbara yeah I'll do it and I'm I'll give her a wide berth to get to the point whatever that is because the journey has been beautiful okay and like really objectively beautiful nobody does it like Barbara I mean I totally agree so I was reading Calamity Club but I didn't finish it so I had to put it down to start Partita which isn't a great way to start a new book but I'm in it So I was reading Calamity Club, but I didn't finish it. So I had to put it down to start Partita, which isn't a great way to start a new book.

13:27But I'm in it. Oh, I saw a little snippet of Sophia Franklin's vlog that went viral where she was basically saying it's been like such a crazy week. She's like very emotional. Yeah. And also like some drama giving tea to the vlog watchers, us, saying that, you know, she's heard that like Alex and her husband have like really been trying to find out what's in the book, get a copy of it. So now I understand why there's been a total embargo, why we couldn't get copies. I imagine there are actually a lot of people who are trying to get a copy of the book, not just us because we're nosy, but like people who have actual vested interest in the matter. Yes. I was saying on the Patreon, was it? I think we should

14:02get an exclusive excerpt. I just want to put that out there because we're doing such a beautiful job of sharing the excerpts and we've been enjoying ourselves. I want to ask, do you think we're in the book? Oh. We like unbeknownst at the time, like kind of inserted ourselves. I guess you could say that, but I don't think that we are in the book. When Alex and Sophia were like not releasing episodes and the public thought that, like, they were banding together to, like, get a good deal, we sent them a DM. And we're like, guys, we love the show. Like, we've been podcasting for a while. If you, like, need any advice on, like, how to negotiate. Like, whatever. Just, like, trying to be nice. And only Sophia answered.

14:39And she called us. And she was, like, just hearing what we had to say. And she was like, well, what do you think about this? Should we take this? And we were just, like, giving her our advice and we never heard from alex and then like two days later i forget how many days it was uh we learned of the the breakup yeah and this is coming from two girls who left their ip in the dust and at the end of the day it didn't mean anything because we're the talent right like we had a show that's how i saw this at a big media company that's how i saw their show at the time because if they had left Barstool in the way that they were trying to do, which was like, you know, in a uncivilized way and just- Knock at their IP.

15:12Knock at their social media channel. To me, the name is whatever. No, if they had just like started a new show called like Call They Daddy or whatever. Anything. Literally anything. I think they had like a couple, there's a couple like things that they could have done or even the Alex and Sophia. People just wanted them, so. And they had continued to release episodes of the same nature of what they were doing like the magic wasn't Barstool the magic was them the magic wasn't the name either no no and now it's just like we don't even think about the name because we just talk about the show or whatever but the name itself is it's not like no and actually for what Alex is doing now the name makes no sense like zero She should have just changed it.

15:45But I think it was more so about getting the social media handles that had like a million followers, which is valuable. Like I get that. So I wonder if we're in the book. Maybe that's why there's an embargo. I don't think so. I don't think it was like that important of a phone call. Like for us, it was important because it kind of like put us at the center of it. But for the others, like it was really relatively non-impactful yeah we'll see that's eight days till the book comes out how exciting i can't believe it's november already it's your birthday this weekend on friday my birthday's on friday oh so we'll have like a little party at the show i'll decorate party at the show maybe we'll get donuts um what would i want for my birthday breakfast at the show. Maybe we'll get donuts. What would I want for my birthday breakfast at the show?

16:25Yeah, place your orders now. Like a frittata. Okay. It's breakfast. It's grek-fast. Pancakes? I don't want pancakes. I don't want to. French toast? Not for grek-fast. Waffles? A frittata. Okay. But not from any of the places. Great, we'll have like a frittata party. A frittata cake. That's so cute. Okay. And donuts for Koki. Of course, of course. And's so cute. Okay. And donuts for Kofi. Of course. And for everybody else. For like the people who actually want to celebrate. I would love like a spinach and goat cheese frittata. We will get a frittata cake with candles. Let's write that down. It will be beautiful. And we can't wait. With donuts on the side. And I can have it for dessert. But I need to eat real food first.

17:03And what do you want for your 35th fourth oh sorry I got confused 34 what do you want for your 34th um in terms of material items more so like emotional like oh what do I want for your 34th year I want a golden globe happiness like this forever yeah and a golden globe i don't want the golden globe i want the nomination yeah i don't want the globe okay so we have to be specific in our manifestations according to i want to be nominated so that like we can go to the award show and like we can continue this moment and like take pictures it's just been so much fun it's been like really and I think the first you know just real like very validating thing for us yeah in a major way so I would love to be nominated so the fun goes on I do not want

17:51to win why I I can't imagine making a speech oh I've thought about it like I got it then I got it I think that we just like I like where we're at you know it's just I don't want to be number one the thing is girls like us yes I told you this so many times. I talk about it with athletes. I don't want to be number one. Yeah, we want to be number three. I'll even take two. Yeah. I will do two. I don't want to be number one. I will take the Golden Globe, of course. I have practiced the speech many times in my head before bed. I make a little joke. I, of course, have already compiled the list of people we need to thank. And if we don't even get the nomination, I will make the speech here live on air and also if we get the nomination we lose you'll make the speech here

18:28the speech will be heard irregardless of the results of the of the campaign okay yeah and also i'm wearing a hat today i just feel like i need to mention that i like wasn't gonna bring it up because it is annoying when like somebody tries something new and you're like you bring a hat no i think we should talk about it i'm wearing a cord by mary orton hat so it's not just like any old piece of shit yeah it's a cord cap the quality made how are you feeling like being inside in a hat i feel good that i've done something you know you need to just sort of like deal with what i'm dealing with which is just like my hair it's not working for you i don't know it's it's just like feeling on like you know what it's

19:05feeling like bob it's time for bob it is what it's feeling like honestly but i i fear i'm so ready for bob i've really been thinking about it i'm getting a haircut in december and i also had a haircut last month so it's not a haircut right i got an amazing haircut but it's also a regrowth issue because i'm just like i just feel like i'm always like tucking pieces away and people say i play with my hair a lot and it's not like i have a compulsion I just feel like there's just stuff going on yeah so I put a hat on I was wearing a headband but it wasn't even helping enough like my hair I was having a bad hair day it's time for a bob I'm waiting for the return of Jackie's bob era guys type her up

19:40in the comments who remembers when Jackie had a bob we were so alive back then And also Shannon has inspired me because she's done something drastic and it's completely paid off and she looks like so cool. And I just. You've also like significantly dropped LBs and you can just afford to do crazier things with your hair. But you've lost the baby weight. Considering you've brought up the weight, I would say I don't think I'm thin enough to have a bob. Well, maybe the bob. But I'm getting my hair cut in December. Maybe the bob will be the motivation you need to drop the last more weight more oh so you think it's time I think you said like last week that you were like 10 away 10 away from what there are so many different benchmarks I have to like the my pre-baby weight

20:17then the weight that I got pregnant at but don't forget all the weight that I gained trying to get pregnant and don't forget about that og bmi right so I think I'm I'm now at the weight that I gained trying to get pregnant. And don't forget about that OG BMI. Right. So I think I'm now at the weight that I was at when I got pregnant. But now I have to lose all the weight that I gained while I was trying to get pregnant in those eight months. And maybe the bob could be the thing. A couple LBs. I mean, I made a Weight Watchers dinner. What more can I do? I love Weight Watchers. I'm doing my best. It's just so look great you look great but anyway so i'm i actually am really thinking about it because i just and i also like like

20:51change and i feel like every there's always something like new with me and like change and i feel like right now at this moment like i guess i just moved so i don't know i feel like i kind of need change i might be one of those people that can't stand still like the opposite we could dive into that if you wanted to what does that mean no what does it say what i don't know but i guess i've had plenty of change so like maybe it's not that maybe i just need about maybe you just need a bob like and it's not that deep we're here for you and we fully support you could always get extensions no i can't i know no i've come you have to live with actions. I've come too far to go back to that way of life.

21:26I've come too far. I've worked too hard on this zip code to go home now. But anyways, enjoying my hat. It looks great. Yeah. It's just like fun. And then I don't need to wear sunglasses every second. Totally. Should we dive in? We've got, what are the stories like today? Like mindless celebrity fodder, I would say. Just as I had hoped. Just what you need. Exactly. Without further ado, it is time to get into the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Vivrel. As a longtime Vivrel member, we are so excited to continue talking about them and partnering with them. We love Vivrel. If you don't know about it yet, you're really missing out.

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27:53that about us did you see that she follows the toast i had no idea mcfee mcfee foster and she commented on one of her reels like i had no clue they were sisters i'm gonna throw up i'm gonna throw up um so like going to throw up. So like I said, we went really viral. And so you guys might not know, we have an older sister, Olivia. We're always talking about her like she's the best. And when we were in middle school, she had like this group of friends. It was four girls. And you know, like when you're in middle school and you have a group, you have to come up with a name. Like the six chicks or whatever. It's sexy seven. Well, Olivia and her group came up with NODA. It was an acronym for their names.

28:23Natalie, Olivia. Oh, okay. N-O-D-A. Let me not name the members. It was an acronym for their names. Natalie, Olivia. Oh, you're going to name them. Oh, okay. N-O-D-A. Yeah, let me not name the members. Olivia was the O. Natalie would be fine with it. And actually, I saw her mom at the mall the other day. Like, we're fine. And then a girl who starts with D. We haven't spoken to the D or the A in a while. So, like, I don't want to start stuff. I'm sure they're great. I don't know where they're at. Yeah. And so they used to, like, walk around. And they would say we're no duh no duh honestly at the time like i was jealous like it was a sleigh and it was a great play on words and a great use of language now like lame like seriously losers but at the time it was sick

28:58yeah i wanted it so badly for myself and you know what they olivia was like so special because she was the vowel oh I guess they had the a2 but most most people's names like don't start with vowels yeah so it's like we're just kind of clunky like c and j yeah I can never do like cute like things because I don't have an we're cj cj don't you know it so anyways noble shout out oh yeah jingle for you yes our first story is Hollywood Halloween the The best celebrity Halloween costumes of 2026. Well, I wouldn't say the best, but here's the Halloween costume. The notable Halloween costumes. There were a couple of parties. Of course, Heidi Klum had her annual party. Her branded affair. She dressed as a disgusting hand. I don't know how we got here with Heidi

29:43Klum. Like who's asking for this? No, she really did become the queen of Halloween like 20 years ago. And she, no, maybe 10. Maybe 10 years ago. And I don't know why she- You don't think she's the queen of Halloween anymore? No, no. Who do you think is the queen of Halloween? I think everybody thinks they're the queen of Halloween. And I don't think anyone is. I believe we called ourselves as such. Oh, sorry. We're the queens of Halloween. In terms of celebrities think anyone is. I believe we called ourselves as such. Oh, sorry. We're the queens of Halloween. In terms of like celebrities who either throw parties or are known for their like amazing costumes. I actually did not see one costume

30:10this year that I thought was particularly good. Oh, sorry. I totally take it back. Queen of Halloween this year, Sabrina Carpenter. Did you see her? Yes. She dressed up as Penny Pingleton in the iconic dress from You Can't Stop the Beat. Her friend dressed up as Seaweed and then her other friend dressed up as Tracy Termlod. Best costume ever. Like, niche reference. I loved it. And she's so Penny Pingleton. Yeah, she is. It did make me sad, though, like, realizing that it's Amanda Bynes. Yeah, I know. It's... I know. It's just then I was, like, feeling sad about that. You can't stop today. No! Has it come screaming down the track Yesterday is history Dream on and it's never coming back No way

30:51So good Amanda Betwell and Wes Wilson Dressed as Dumb as Dumber Oh, I wanted to say I'm so glad you brought that up Of course the comments were like I hate you guys I hate you Kill yourself You were supposed to dress up I thought it was hilarious And honestly I've kind of like turned the corner on them That always happens I hate you. Kill yourself. You were supposed to dress up. I thought it was hilarious. And honestly, I've kind of like turned the corner on them. That always happens. Like when people have gotten beat, and I'm really more so talking about her. I really hate him. But when people get so beat down, like at some point, like I start to like just feel like I have to defend them. And it's like we can stop cyberbullying Amanda and Wes now.

31:22I think the time has passed. They've paid their dues. Sierra has gotten, you know, that's how I felt about Ariana Maddox. we can stop cyber bullying Amanda and Wes now. I think the time has passed. They've paid their dues. Sierra has gotten, you know, that's how I felt about Arianamatics at a certain point. Like you've gotten so many, it's kind of the best thing to ever happen to you. You free from this loser finally. And now you have a career like, well, not that you never before, but you know what I mean? You have like an insane career than you would have had before. Outside of this. You had before. Yes. So like, I'm at a point now where it's like, I'm, we're done. I'm personally done like bullying and i'm actually genuinely curious to see what they do next like yeah i've

31:49been done for a while uh and now i think everybody else should really move on and i agree um and i thought it was a clever costume i thought it was a clever costume as well um the girls were out stoss and alex are all dressed up together i didn't their costume, but I think it's like a movie reference. Same with Kendall Jenner and Jacob Lorde. What were they? They're the couple from Prada, Texas, like a movie. Oh, Prada, Texas. I didn't realize that was a costume. It's a movie. You know, they both probably like love cinema, like so much newness. Harry Styles dressed up for Harry Ween. He was Elvis Presley. He was his X Factor audition look. So the X Factor, that's also, he's up there with Sabrina Carpenter as having one Halloween. I would love to know

32:32what it sounded like inside that stadium when he walked out in that costume. Like, first of all, so innovative, great, great execution of the costume. I knew who he was immediately. I can, I saw a video cause they brought out Jalen Brunson because uh I guess the last time Harry did a residency he got a banner for having done like the most shows 15 in a row and now it's 30 because he did more so they replaced his 15 banner with 30 and Jalen Brunson consecutive or it's like 15 more than the 15 that's a good question I think it's 30 total now um like he's gonna be up there with like Billy Joel who has like a thousand they brought out Jalen Brunson to do the banner ceremony. And I saw the video, like the stadium went insane.

33:08I actually think they probably were louder when he walked out in his X Factor costume. I didn't love the Elvis reference only because, like, are you saying you're the Elvis of your generation? Because like someone could argue that he is, right? Like heartthrob, dresses really kind of like out there. I think that he could be like sort of leaning into him being the Elvis. And I don't think he's the Elvis of our generation. I don't know who it is. I think him dressing up as Elvis does not mean that that's what he thinks of himself. But I want to say I think he is an Elvis of our generation. An Elvis. Yeah. I would have to think of all the major players, but like the Elvis mania is on par with like 1D mania.

33:51Yes, I would say One Direction is the Elvis of our generation. And if he's the Elvis of One Direction. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's like so off. And I think it's like a fun, cool costume for a performer. And like you get to be Elvis. I think it's like just an easy one. I love Dex Hector. Like that, he gets crowned King of Halloween for that not for Elvis um Lisa Rinna dressed up as Kylie Jenner's orange Marty Supreme premiere look I need to know who did her makeup because like they literally did like facial enhancement like she looked like Kylie it was crazy it was a cute costume yeah not a winner by any means but cute it was um indy never ready indy never ready and made my life complete because we were able to like really bring that reference full circle

34:32because yes that's exactly what ben looked like i don't really even know her that much but she's like an up-and-coming it girl she hosted snl this week and then i think at the after party because it was halloween she showed up in costume and she hopped out of the sprinter van in literally red dress pearls and a slick back like she was Betty Boop but she literally looked like Ben when he took his wig off yeah hilarious it was seriously a Betty Boop weekend a great weekend for Betty 100% um Pete Davidson and his ex dressed up in a family costume with their daughter I've decided I'm kind of like China in Pete Davidson I spent so much of my career talking about him and honestly to hear how he spoke about women, specifically influencers, merely a month ago.

35:09I actually, unless like barring something crazy happens, I'd like us to stop choosing stories about him. He wasn't a story. No, I know. I'm letting you know. It was a mention. I'm letting you know. Like if it comes across your desk, unless it's like beyond compelling. I've sent that from you from a while. Oh, good. Don't worry. You know I like to make my feelings known. And then our next story, which is the major news from Halloween, is that Martha Stewart has had to apologize for her homeless Halloween costume. She said it was insensitive and not funny. So Martha Stewart dressed up as a homeless person for Halloween. A non-binary homeless person? Yes, a homeless person. And she got a lot of backlash for that.

35:44She's like a billionaire poking fun at poverty. Like, my culture is not your costume. She said in a statement, it's hard to admit when you really screwed up. My earlier statement didn't go far enough. I know people are suffering economically. Wearing a costume like I did was insensitive and not funny. I'm very sorry, Martha. Now, it has been a while since somebody had to apologize for their costume. It used to be like every year, we're like, who's doing blackface? Who's doing Native American? Who's doing a Native American? And then people really learned. And it has been a while. And things have been very quiet. Yeah. So we kind of needed this. Of course, Martha is like not of this earth. She's not of this generation.

36:17She doesn't like understand. So I really don't fault her. I also like don't care. I'm just like, I'm not in the business of caring about things like this. Like it wasn't even a good costume. That's the thing. Like, yeah, I'm just confused. Yeah. It was very strange. Like not even of the like of it being offensive or inappropriate or anything like that. Just poor execution of a costume. Yeah. And doesn't she have like people that, you know, I don't think she really keeps. She doesn't have people. I don't think Martha has like people like that and what are you talking about people like who like run her her brand yeah no I think like Martha's extremely authentic like I think she runs her own Instagram you can tell

36:53and she just woke up and just wanted to dress homeless and and so she did that yeah that's literally exactly what I think okay and she's sorry for that yeah and I'm sure she is I'm sure in the moment like she didn't think it was wrong and now she gets it like I also think she's sorry for that. Yeah, and I'm sure she is. I'm sure in the moment, like she didn't think it was wrong and now she gets it. I also think she's not someone who says sorry when she doesn't mean it or anything. So I think she's truly sorry. And personally, like I can move on. I don't know how other people will feel, but the woman has been to jail and back. So like, I just don't think this is going to stop her. No, this is fine.

37:21Like she will be fine. Like I said, it's been a while since we had a scandal like this and i think people were really excited to sort of like sharpen their pitchforks um because hollywood like has really fallen into line with um costumes like we got the we got the message we're not doing anything even remotely offensive and obviously the memo didn't make it to bedford massachusetts where miss martha stewart lives maybe the time when everyone was learning those lessons like maybe she was in prison. I actually think her prison sentence predates that, honestly. Interesting. Like, who was the last person who got in trouble? Like, who comes to mind? Julianne Hough, you. When she dressed up as Orange is the New Black.

38:00Luann. Of course, Diana Ross. And took down Megyn Kelly as well. Yes, of course. Lisa Rinna and her husband dressed as Nazis. Well, not as Nazis. They were dressed as people who liked Nazis? No, they were dressed as characters from a movie. Who liked Nazis. Or like was a Nazi. But the fact of the matter is he had a red swastika armband on his arm. That's crazy. But that's vintage. Like that hasn't happened for a while. So Martha's just sort of like keeping culture alive. Yes. Yeah, it really is. I guess so. And you know, if we don't learn from history, we're doomed to repeat it, Martha. Yeah, but it just seemed like it almost seemed like she stepped in it like on purpose because it's so dumb. Like,

38:42you know, 100% and we're talking about Martha. I don't think she has like this team of people around her. I happen to know she has like a publicist who she's had for 100 years. They're like the same age. I don't think she both didn't know. Yeah. Like, I don't think she has a team of interns. And they both thought it was a good, fun costume. Yeah. Did you feel like overall? And I'm glad because I think in recent years we've said like Hollywood does so much when it comes to Halloween. Maybe it was the placement of it being on a Saturday. But like we usually have like a 20-day lead up. Everyone's doing photo shoots, multiple parties every day. I felt like everybody put on normal costumes from Spirit Halloween and went to a party on Saturday night.

39:15And that's it. Yeah. And there were a couple of good ones. You see that Sprouse house. I saw. Dylan and Barbara Palvin have entered their hosting era and they're like now doing a Halloween party. Kendall Jenner had one. There's a couple of like classics that everybody goes to. I felt like everybody acted normal aside from Martha. And it was like a very low key Halloween. Yeah, it was like Friday night and Saturday night. Except Heidi Klum. Her costume was fucking disgusting. It was. And I just don't want to. Like, I feel that she's in this like hamster wheel where it's like she started this Halloween party and I think she started it like in good fun. Like it was supposed to be like. No, she's the only one keeping her in this hamster wheel where it's like she started this Halloween party

39:45and I think she started it in good fun. She's the only one keeping her on the hamster wheel. It's not like the people are saying, more, what are you going to do next? Gory. Why is she going gory? It's been like this for years now where you don't even know who it is. No, who she is. You can't see her. She's just wearing a huge prosthetic and she's just an object. Maybe it's like a body double because you would never know. Right. And so she doesn't have to go to her party, you mean? Yeah. That's actually the only explanation I would expect. I would just love to know why this queen of Halloween, who it was all good and fun, she decided to take a turn into doing special effects makeup, really disgusting looking

40:19for the last five years. Why? Why couldn't you have continued on in a sexy way or a funny way? Why did we go for horror? I guess because it's Halloween. It's just disgusting no and I just I'm not seeing the demand for it no even if it's not I can I'm not even seeing outside of myself like anyone just like hyping this up well she makes a lot of money every year from the party like it's always sponsored she it's like a big thing for her and i get that but like i i think the costume direction is awful yeah we need a new direction we need will schuster are you ready for our next story some coachella rumors line up um dualipa sisa and tame impala are expected to hit the stage this year at coachella 2027 may be months away but the annual concert event in april is already

41:03taking shape with Some huge acts Close to signing TMZ has learned Well now I have to go Tame Impala's gonna be there Aren't Tame Impala Always there? Is it Is Tame Impala a band? I'm just assuming They're a band I think it's a person And I just feel like Every year when we No Jackie The year we went It was Tame Impala And now every time We like talk about Coachella We always say Tame Impala When I tell you I've never heard A Tame Impala song In my life No we like talk about Coachella, we always say Tame Impala. When I tell you I've never heard a Tame Impala song in my life. No. And they're always on the lineup. He. I think. Is it a person or a band? Like, let's clear that up. I just don't know why.

41:33Maybe because I saw him. It's non-binary. Oh, or, okay. Well, solo act. Man or woman? Man, right? Yeah. Okay, he. That's going to be an adjustment for me. It'll be fine. Dula Peep and who was the other? SZA. Oh, well, that all should be really good. I'm not going, obviously, even though this morning I did decide, come hell or high water, I will be seeing John Mayer at the Sphere. I was listening to his new song and I was like, you know what? I got to hear this. Take yourself. When does he perform? Just like, you know, in my active postpartum era. But I feel that it's okay. And I'm going to make it there. April? I think he has like a bunch of dates that span between April and May. Okay. I'm going to figure it out.

42:16Okay. I'll go with you. Of course you will. Because I'll never turn down a trip to Vegas. And Olivia said she's coming. I assume you're paying. Oh, I wouldn't assume that. What would make you assume that? Because like it's your big trip and like your dream. Oh, that's interesting. And you're putting this together, so sure. Oh, I wasn't putting anything together. I said I'm going. Anti-coach, you splurge. It's interesting. Maybe we'll have to make it like a business expense. We'll figure out a way to sort of expense it to the expense account. I'll treat to a dinner. Don't worry. This is not a Coachella that feels that I need to be at. I do think I have seen my last Coachella. I don't know that there's anything that I need to

42:51be at. Well, if Taylor was going to. You would go? I think I would. I would have to. Sort of like for research purposes. But still then you'd be at Coachella. You're telling me. I have to figure it out, but would get there like really that's probably the only person I don't think there's anyone that would get me to go aside from like a work obligation aside from a check a big fat check that I can use to find my trip to Vegas yeah right um I don't think there's anyone even like Kelly Clarkson or even Rascal Flatts because like I'm not gonna cross the country and go and such and go and put myself in that position, that precarious position when I can just wait like for whatever next time is going to be.

43:34Yeah. With Taylor, you never know. So I think, no, no, I'm sorry. With Taylor, you know, she will be doing live shows once again. At some point. Yes. But I think we're past the whole album tour album tour album of course but like she will do shows again with rascal flats you never know because they keep threatening us right same with mezzaluna my favorite italian restaurant in the city did you hear about this every time last time i came to florida last winter news mezzaluna is closing down of course i've been in there since high school the community was was enraged. I guess, like, they banded together. Something with the landlord. I don't know. It was like a rental dispute. Then they were like, oh, never mind.

44:10We're staying open. I was like, okay. And then, of course, I realized how important this restaurant was to me. So I've been eating there, like, probably three or four times a week. Putting your money where your mouth is. Yeah. Then again, I see, like, on this Upper East Side news, it's like, Mezzaluna closing again. I'm like, they're honestly the boy who cried closing. Because I think they got a lot of business the last time they told everyone they were closing. But I actually think on Sunday they closed. You think it's because you haven't been there to support? No, I wasn't the only person who clearly had a renaissance with the restaurant. It's a restaurant that was like very popular when we were growing up.

44:41And like it slowed down, you know, trends come and go, but it's just good. And then I think when, you know, the threat of them closing really upset people so every time i've been since it's insanely packed sometimes i have to just order it for pickup um but i do believe yesterday it was late to rest and i just want to say like a glorious manhattan institution it's devastating to think about i'm sorry you're going through that. Thank you. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story that's brought to you by Oats Overnight. Yes. So thank you Oats Overnight for sponsoring today's episode. You know as busy parents I think a lot of us can relate to the whole experience like everyone else getting fed and out the door and then you and your breakfast often gets

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50:49So Jessica Biel is teasing a few of the changes to the new 7th Heaven reboot. During a recent episode of Collider Ladies Night, the actress shared an update on the series, which is in early development at CBS Studios. What we want to create, how we want to modernize it, is really the things that are happening for teenagers and families that have teenagers all the way down to the youngest child. Technology-based issues, school stuff, bullying, drugs, alcohol. All of those things we want to address in a very real way, which is, I think, what the original kind of gently touched on. But we were very careful about what our audience wanted. We had a lot of limitations. We have less limitations now.

51:26Okay, I was going to make fun of this, but let me just say, there actually isn't a show on TV right now. So at the time, and I don't even think I knew it, but now when I go back and watch, I'm like, oh, this show was like so weird, but it was kind of like a PSA. An after school special. Wrapped in a soap opera. So we were like supposed to fall in love with these characters and like relate to them at different ages, but every episode like tackled a difficult subject. Of course, who could forget when the brother became addicted to those vitamins that gave him lots of energy at basketball practice like that was their take that's what she's talking about limitations like that was their take on drugs right um because he was literally just taking vitamins but the vitamins he overdosed

51:55on and like went to the hospital okay um and it was all it was like a faith-based show so it was like the dad was a pastor um now of course course, when I think of Seventh Heaven, I can only think about the fact that that said father, the actor's in prison because he was touching little boys, which is not- Which is shocking and so like- Not on brand with Seventh Heaven. Incongruous with the show. They probably had an episode on that. Right, meanwhile. There, he probably wrote the episode from personal experience. Yeah. So I don't think he would have been a part of it anyway because it sounds like maybe Jessica Biel is going to be the mom. Who even knows what the setup will be? Beverly Mitchell?

52:30A show that tackles issues that children and teenagers are going through. It's also like Degrassi a little bit. Degrassi was a more mature version. Degrassi was very advanced. But there is no show that I'm aware of that's doing that right now. So there is a gap. Yeah, there is. Even though kids these days are just like more mature and like faster and like they're watching shit on Netflix, like they would never watch this. But like for us, it was like our only form of entertainment. But if it's a good show, if you can make these messages wrapped up into a good show, it is possible. This is like kind of a worthy effort not to be like such a mom, but like I kind of love this if it's not like cringe and bad and like kids will actually be receptive to it.

53:07She said as a mom, she's looking for what she can watch with her kids on TV. It's limited. I cannot watch a lot of these things with them and they love TV and it's my business. My husband and I are in this business together doing these things and we can't share a lot of that with our kids. Right, right, right. Because everything is so inappropriate. Right. She said, I think the idea of whatever faith you want to have, that's important. Sure. That we don't have a lot on television television whether you believe that or you go down that road or not so vague like yeah now she's lost me no and it's like she won't just say like she wants to make a religious show a christian faith-based show or she doesn't I don't even know what she

53:35wants yeah there are a lot of people that really because the thing about seven heaven is that like it's not about religion like yes they were this religious family. The dad was a pastor, but like we watched it and like, I didn't think anything about. No, but religion is like a 10 pole in their life. For like values. And for like morality, yes. She said, there are a lot of people that really do wanna walk down that road. What, be religious, just say be religious. Yeah, she's being vague. So I think some kind of faith, some kind of family community and maybe something not so jaded, like something a little bit more glass half full. It's not that soft because it's realistic. Okay. Well, you're going to have to like,

54:09you know, just say some stuff. Yeah. Well, I religious, if you want to be my take on this from the second you started speaking, completely changed. It's just like kind of a nice idea. It's a little idyllic to think that like any kids would watch it, but yeah, if they wrap it up in like a sort of like Gen Z, cool girl, clean girl aesthetic, like maybe they would watch it. Maybe. I saw a lot of Ring Doorbell footage. And maybe younger kids would watch it. Like maybe teenagers won't. Maybe teenagers didn't watch 7th Heaven. But the age that we were when we watched it. We were preteen. Yeah. And it's like you're not watching the raciest stuff yet. No. So I think if it's like, you know, sort of Riverdale-esque.

54:45No, but I think they are watching the raciest stuff. Well, that's the problem. They have just unlimited access to the whole world. Well, you can put their parental control. Yes, of course. People do that. They do. And not everyone's watching unlimited stuff. No, but I think like when you have a cell phone, it just gives you access to like. Not everyone has a cell phone. Yeah. Well, I think this is a worthy cause. I do. I think so too i'm like i'm like gared and nervous for all these episodes because there's so much like bad like bad dark well yeah they have lots of material to cover unfortunately yeah and of course like cyber bullying mental health school shooting ones that like new issues that they probably didn't cover in past seasons.

55:26You know, there was a school shooting on Degrassi. That's how Drake ended up in the wheelchair, of course. There was a school shooting on Glee. Actually, there was never actually the shooting. It was Sue Sylvester's gun that accidentally went off. There was also a school shooting in Montreal. So they kind of covered the bases with like the OG shows. But there are lots of new problems that like kids these days. There are a lot of new problems that kids are facing. Like, you know, just the impacts of editing your photos, you know, things like that. Yeah. Of course, like the Snapchat nude leaks. Revenge porn. Oh my God, I have such a pit for kids these days. I know. Our fifth and final story. Mm-hmm.

56:00Not to, the news gets worse, Claudia. What? Bill Belichick and his girlfriend, Doreen Hudson, broke up a year ago, despite recent appearances together. So the streets are saying Bill and Jordan have called it quits and that they did a while ago. They broke up a year ago, people confirms. As a reminder, he is 74 and she is 25. Thank you for the reminder. TMZ was the first to report their split. Bill and Jordan ended their relationship late last year, but continue to be committed to their business partnerships and remain close friends. Of course, their business partnerships. Let me say this. It's devastating to see a love lost, always. But I think the real tragedy here is that, like, does this end Jordan Hudson's, like, public life?

56:40Because, like, will people continue to care about what she does, says, posts, when she's not dating bill belichick like let me tell you something jordan hudson will be on the next season of dancing with the stars they love a jordan i love that even though i think the show has like elevated a little bit beyond her they're still who they are we just happen to be watching and this happens to be a season where there hasn't been a really controversial person but they went anna delvey they went hilaria they have had political people on sean spicer did they have scaramouche i don't know if they had scaramouche but tucker carlson did it yes but tucker carlson did it back in the day when he was just like nbc but he was not considered controversial but still they like

57:20to mix it up yeah jordan for dib Debitus when? I stand that. I think I'm actually people obviously. Maybe she'll be on our season. Maybe we'll be friends. People obviously, you know, talk about the couple Jordan and Bill as like, you know. A great love. Well, of course. But beyond that, like as you know, a big age dynamic, power dynamic. But like when they talk about the power dynamic, they're talking about like she's in charge like i don't so i actually think this is good for bill she's grooming him yeah i think bill is like free from his groomer and i i feel excited for him like to be able to relax a little bit it's crazy how bill belichick's reputation was literally destroyed in a matter

58:00of like one year not even jordan like there was a lot of things, obviously Jordan was the icing on the cake, but like, like what? He was the most, the shirt, the most well-respected coach in football. Like he could have retired. Like he should have retired. I'm like, what? And now she's just like leaving him to pick up the pieces. I kind of love that. I don't know what's going on. Me neither. I can say honestly, I don't know what's going on. And I know that we all have this narrative that she's manipulating him and like isolating him from his children. Very Meredith Blake. Very, you know, she's like kind of taking control of his business and his memoirs. I just, I don't know if that's true. Like maybe she is suffering.

58:40Maybe Jordan is hurting. Oh, you want like the secret life of Jordan. Like maybe her memoirs are next. I don't know. But I think if anybody out there is listening, like her on Dancing with the Stars is perfect. A dream. Yeah. I agree. I wanted to say something else about Halloween. I wanted to talk about Chanel from today's show with Jenna and Chanel. Okay. She dressed up as a rockette. Love. And she brought the rockettes and they did a performance. And she honestly was really good. And it reminded me that she did the Midnight Sundance with Zara Larson. And I feel like when they selected her, I was a little underwhelmed, mostly because I was rooting for Justin Sylvester. And I stand by that. I was only underwhelmed

59:16because it felt like she had the job the entire time and she was so the obvious choice that what were we doing with everyone else? And to be honest, I actually didn't know her. Like I hadn't heard her name prior to her selection. So I just felt like the whole thing was like a waste of time it was a waste of time because it was always her job yeah right and I feel that I need to say like how wrong I was because every time I don't watch a today show I never did but I see a lot of clips and she's kind of incredible and I want to say she's like kind of eclipsing Jenna too. Like the celebrities love her. She loves to put herself out there. She got in the Rockette costume and did the dance and then the Midnight Sun dance. Like I just kind of love her. And I want to say I was wrong. I feel like

59:53we already said that. Oh, okay. Yeah. I feel like when we did Midnight Sun, we were just like, she's everything. She has the exact right energy. She's a breath of fresh air. The show is just like seamless. And it, it almost feels like it was always them which is how it should be it shouldn't be like this huge announcement every time you see this person on tv you're just like remembering and i think it's as good as it like could ever be when you're trying to replace someone because that's otherwise irreplaceable the today show actually did like a really cute halloween episode where like it was all about nbc they had kenneth the page savannah was dressed as a page they like honored all the different nbc including the rockettes which is why chanel was dressed it was all about NBC. They had Kenneth the Page. Savannah was dressed as a page. They honored all the different NBC,

1:00:26including the Rockettes, which is why Chanel was dressed. It was actually very well executed. And it reminded me that she's kind of amazing. I love her. And I think she cries a lot on the show because she's been through this great trauma and people really connect with that. So she was kind of like the answer. She's open. She's fun. She's like everything you want. In a morning show host. She's the person in your home every day to be. the answer. She's open. She's fun. She's like everything you want. In a morning show host. The person in your home every day to be. Like us. Exactly. That's exactly what people say about her. Open, fun. You know there's another podcast like saying that shit about us right now.

1:00:54For sure. And that podcast is the redhead. And that podcast is us. Yeah, right. Of course. Saying it about us. Well, those were the Fast Five stories. Feels like you needed to know. And that's all for today. Dancing with the Stars is on tonight. So recap tomorrow. Good thing we pushed your toasters. It's not the same. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Monday Morning Show. We do the Fast Five Stories on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, wherever you listen to podcasts. Find us at Toast, leave a five-star review about how beautiful, stunning, and wickedly

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