Dancing With The Weatherman: Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy tuesday happy election day who are you choosing because i choose you folay today tomorrow every lifetime why thank you kosher's that's beautiful who are you voting for um i'm probably voting for if i'm being like let's be really honest okay i'm probably voting for Selina Meyer. I think she's running on like a really strong platform. I'd love to see a women, a women. I'll see myself. Honestly, I would love to see a women in business and in politics.

0:55And she's such a strong record of just, you know, being that bitch. Yeah. So Meyer 27. I love that. You know what I was thinking about this morning I was thinking about what I was gonna wear and I feel like for a few years there like election day was so crazy I remember if I had my nails painted a certain color oh my god people thought it was like a virtue dog whistle they say like red or blue I remember and your sweater is reminding me I remember Kim Kim Kardashian posted a selfie on election day like like go vote, whatever. And she was wearing like a literally that colored shirt. So people thought it was subliminal, a Republican dog whistle. She had to delete it and repost it in black and white. And I feel good because I think that we're

1:38past that a little bit. You and I or society? I feel like society or maybe you and I have like stopped listening to that sort of stuff. No, I i am in ping we used to have like a type of audience that was like really woke and like because your cup is red yeah your shirt is reddish i bleed blue you do what does that mean that you're a big democrat oh is that what that means oh i'm cracking up i thought it was like oh it's like you're red-blooded yeah this is this is a trick okay i don't want any part of this i seriously just leave me out of it okay i just am here to entertain yeah is that okay no it's not actually so anyways yes i feel good in knowing that i can just like make the choices that i

2:22want to make even though they are very agnostic today. And then people aren't reading into it too much. Yeah. Like who could forget when we made chili with Goya beans? Who could forget? And, you know, at the time, I think a lot of people thought that that was like a very intentional political strategic move on our part when actually they are just the best beans. So times were crazy. I think some corners of the internet still operate like in that sort of like woke mindset. I think as a society, generally we have moved on to a more normal place. And as a to society, I think. We don't engage in behaviors like that. We're all here to have fun. So get out the vote. So important. I have a loose plan.

3:00It's very loose. It depends what time we end this show. Does it include an elderly friend and a snack? It includes Botox. What? I have to get my Botox. Okay. So it's like if we end the show and I can vote before my Botox, that's my plan. If we end late, which we probably will because it's Dancing with the Stars, I'll have to go after my Botox. Yeah, today's going to be a big show, Disney Night on Dancing with the Stars. Yes. And an elimination. No one saw coming except for us. Except show. Disney night on Dancing with the Stars. Yes. And an elimination. No one saw coming, except for us. Except for us. That we prayed for. I don't want to bully. I was actually shocked of all the weeks where I really felt like she needed to go home.

3:35Honestly, last night wasn't it. I know, but really everyone did so good. We'll get into the stories. I also meant to tell you I was supposed to see you last night, but then I didn't. Bruno had another brush with death yesterday. He used up another one of his lives. Well, we do need to start keeping count because I do believe we will max out at around nine or ten. Yeah. What do you think we're at? Like five? Let me count the ways. The dark chocolate, obviously, was a big scare. The Sour Patch Watermelon. The Chicken Bone. Oh, over the summer when we stayed in East Hampton, remember, and he was like vomiting. Pancreatitis. Pancreatitis. The great pancreatitis of East Hampton. Of 2024. Yes. So it's four.

4:14And then last night, whatever you're going to tell me. Five. Five. Yesterday. So we were cleaning out the high chair and a couple of raisins fell to the ground. And before we could pick them up, one Bruno swiped them. You know it's so funny i've been meaning to actually ask you about that mother to mother um we've recently entered our raisin era such a great snack and of course we don't really do grapes because we have a dog and grapes are toxic to dogs and it literally didn't even occur to me that there were raisins all over the floor romeo actually sniffed it and walked away. Romeo's not a big eater. He's self-preservationist. And then I was thinking, does it pose the same threat? Yes, very much so.

4:51So what'd you do with Bruno? So we had to call up our speed dial, ASPCA poison control. They went through the stats. We weren't sure if it was two or three raisins. If it were two, he could have just passed them. But three. But three, we have to induce vomit. Takes it to a toxic level. So, of course, Zach was like, I think it was three. We induced vomit. My king threw up, as he always does. Did you, like, sift through the vomit to find the raisins? My other king, my husband, did that. And we found three raisins, and we put it to bed. And you know what? It's just a regular Monday. In the life of Bruno. Yeah. He needs a cell phone that has the ASPCA hotline like on speed dial. He's the craziest dog ever.

5:35He's so crazy. Actually, Romeo's like actually been like kind of annoying. What else is new? It's been done. First of all, flooding up the wazoo. I couldn't even watch Dancing with the Stars. I thought the political commercials were annoying. The fucking flood warning, all of it. And then the second the intro starts, I see P.T. Barnum. They cut to the weather guy. I'm like, severe weather alert. And the weatherman is really making a meal out of it. And I'm like, maybe he doesn't know that he's interrupting our program. Disney night. But then at the end of it, he's like, now it's back to Dancing with the Stars. I'm like, so you knew and you repeated yourself. Do you know what I did? So many times with non-essential information i switched over to

6:07disney plus that's why you were asking for the login i could not remember our login i had no political commercials because it's national so i had like shack for the general you know um pizza hut gorgeous things and no interruption so that's so smart i was watching late belated and i was like how was claudia not flipping i was so annoyed especially because like right when pt barnum came on oh for me it started right at the beginning the lion king missed that oh i missed that too but i got pt i did oh i didn't then i went literally on uh disney plus and rewinded like because i really wanted to see it um someone oh wait it was and i had to watch julia styles dance without sound because you're fine the weatherman was telling me about

6:49what's happening in port st lucie lucie what is it lucie what do you mean what is it lucie i don't know yeah by the shit's bad in port st lucie i learned that also from the original weather they got it bad because the weatherman was like, stay home. And the whole thing was like, Port St. Lucie. I'm like, okay, but I'm not in Port St. Lucie. I think he actually came up with a little limerick. He said, don't drown, turn around. Chilling. I thought that was nice. I thought, you know what's better? Don't take risks on treacherous roads. So it was thundering lightning all night long. And it has been for like two, three days. And Romeo's like, Romeo can't take it on treacherous roads. So it was thundering lightning all night long. And it has been for like two, three days.

7:26And Romeo's like, Romeo can't take it. Shaking. Not one of those. Yes. He's one of those. He's acting like he's a dog who's been to Iraq. Like you literally from a breeder in New Jersey. Like what are you afraid of? Shaking. Has not gone to the bathroom in 24 hours. We keep taking him outside. He runs inside. He will not go in. Tail between his legs. Had to sleep in our bed. Like, taking him outside. He runs inside. He will not go in. Tail between his legs. Had to sleep in our bed. Like, oh my God, he is being so drama. You guys, he's like having a full traumatic reaction. It has been like days. And I don't know what to do with him. Like when I hold him, he shakes. When I put him in his crate,

7:59that's like his safe space. But like then it's sad and he's alone and scared. I seriously don't know what to do. I don't have the bandwidth for it. And he has not gone to the bathroom like in almost a day but he's peed no yeah i know you might need to call aspca no i just know i'm gonna find like a pee in the bathroom or something like on my computer classic there's a piece of him a bath mat he loves that yeah favorite he's just being like so drama oh i didn't know you have one of those yeah me neither because like i don't experience a ton of thunderstorms. Over the summer in the Hamptons, it was like one or two. And honestly, I don't remember him being affected by it. No, these have been crazy.

8:31These are on another level. They have been very loud and very bright. It feels like it's right on top of your home only. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. So that's just sort of what we're dealing with, canine-wise, at our house. Understood. It's been a drama. The dogs are going through it. But other than that. Other than that, all good on the Western front. As the kids say, I watched Dancing with the Stars. I had a pargy snack. I had a Nutter Butter. I had a chili with the stars. I had chili as well. But it's been a while since I had a Nutter Butter. I've only eaten chili for the last 48 hours. And you've never looked better, by the way. I don't feel. I've never felt worse. No, I definitely feel a little weird, but I think I also just have cramps.

9:08A lot of beans. Yeah. No, I just have like, I'm also having my, um, my, my cramps. Speaking of cramps, you know, I'm having this thing in pregnancy that I do remember I had in the first, but like, it's really bad. Like it used to be like in the first pregnancy, like if I would walk, like I try to do something active for like 15 minutes, I would get like really bad round ligament pain. It happens now like on my walk in like minute one. Like I'm literally like gonna become incapacitated. Like I cannot leave the house. And so yesterday I was like, okay, I wanna go to TJ Maxx. I was like, you know what? Ben doesn't, like I really can't do anything solo these days with Phu, but I was like, you know what?

9:42I can go to TJ Maxx with Phu, like it's fine. He needed new clothes. We went to TJ Maxx with Foo. Like, it's fine. He needed new clothes. I went to TJ Maxx. I'm walking for one second, literally one second in the parking lot. Jackie, I'm keeled over having round-legged pain, like, in the middle. I haven't even gotten to the store yet. It's like, what am I supposed to do? Just sit at home all day? Okay, I'll do it. Well, I feel like they say I – Are you supposed to walk through it? Part of round-legged pain, it's like why you get it so bad, like, in the middle of the night. That's when I used to get it. Oh, I never get it in the night. It's like after being sedentary for a long time. Like then it pops off.

10:10I never heard that. So maybe you need to be more active. I'm actually extremely active. You are. We're here now. I go to work every day. Like I'm not really like on bed rest. Like obviously I rest, as a pregnant woman should, maybe above average. Maybe above average resting resting but I'm really not that like sedentary yeah like I can't even go for a one minute walk I can't even walk through the parking lot from the car to the TJ Maxx door yeah and by the way when I finally did get to TJ Maxx they're on like Christmas crack it was insane Christmas music Christmas snacks Christmas decor obviously I love it like I'm the type of person if I was not a Jewess, like my tree would be up. Yeah. A Christmas queen.

10:46But it was overwhelming. It was so soon. I'm coming down from Halloween. Then I'll celebrate my birthday. And then maybe I'll be ready for the festivities. Yeah. But right now I just need like a period of neutrality. Yes. What? What are you thinking about my birthday? No, I wasn't thinking anything. You got me something? I didn't. I really need to. It just like hasn't come to me yet. And it will come. birthday no I wasn't thinking anything you got me something I didn't I really need to um it just like hasn't come to me yet and it will come unfortunately like now I'm probably gonna have to shop in person which I hate yeah well Chanel flats actually I would love a pair consider it done um these are a size 36 and a half but you could go 37 like these are like a a pre-second

11:21pregnancy I think I've had these since before actually I've had these since before I was ever pregnant now they're stretched to my foot but I think these've had these since before. Actually, I've had these since before I was ever pregnant. Now they're stretched to my foot, but I think these days I'm a 37. Consider it done. Oh, you're an associate. Obviously, pleating colors. I was going to say, like, more neutral. Maybe like something in the blue family. I find I wear a lot of blue. Consider it done, sister. I love it. Act surprised when you open it up. I will, because I don't know what they're going to... Even though, like, sort of an issue I'm currently facing just being here is that I went to the mall,

11:43and, like, the place where I like to park at the mall is Saks. I cannot shop at Saks. You guys know I have a personal vendetta with Saks. Do they know? I've never shared. And you also should have another. I know. I don't think they know. No, I never wanted to like make myself a victim. But as you guys know, like Saks is a former sponsor of our show. And they're also a company that filed for bankruptcy um and yeah do with that information what you will know i will say we did get a settlement from them it was about one-fifth of what we were actually oh they were a huge q4 partner in the year like 2024 then we found out like we weren't getting paid and i was like fuck this place and then i remember i was in the mall

12:23shopping i'm like wait how am I shopping at Saks? You owe me money. Like, how are you even open right now? You owe me money. How are you even showing your face? You owe me money. Yeah. So I won't shop there, even though technically like they have settled their debts with us. We took like a settlement. Yeah. But like not cool to be purchasing ads on the number one podcast when you can't even pay your bills. For sure. But I would take. So lowbrow. I would take the rest of it in credit. I'll say. Like, obviously, I'm open to the situation being ameliorated but not a good look because one thing about me i don't mess around with people who owe me money that's sort of like you could actually stab me and i might even have a better chance of forgiving you than if you owe me multiple figures

12:59so i'll have to find another store you could go to to Chanel Direct. I could go to Chanel Direct. Direct to Chanel. I can give you my essay. DTC. I could give you my essay. You're like one of those girls on TikTok who make their essay their personality. Usually at Hermes. What do they say? I hunted down my essay. And it's like, I thought essay meant sexual assault. So I'm like, why are you hunting down your sexual assailant? But it also means a sales associate who you create a relationship with. And especially at Hermes, like keep your purchase history and eventually like maybe we'll get you like a bag um i find that content like genuinely insufferable like if you're talking about your essay not your sexual if you're talking about your sales associate and

13:37you're using the term essay just know like it's an immediate scroll for me understood we had a great essay in the hamptons maybe you could reach out to her of course i told the story when I thought she recognized me for being famous and she actually was like, oh, no, I've helped you here before. I was like, oh, OK. Yeah, totally. Maybe I'm not as famous as I thought. No, I think you are. Didn't something famous happen to you yesterday? Golden Globe. Did something famous happen to you yesterday? I feel like something happened. What happened? I don't know. OK, let's walk through the day what did i do yesterday came here was hilarious left laid in bed no i'm kidding i went to tj maxx maybe we weren't together yesterday maybe it was

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20:47where you live and join built at joinbuilt.com slash toast that's j-o-i-n-b-i-l-t.com slash t-o-a-s-t use that link so they know that we sent you thank you to you rt our first story dancing with the stars let me pull up my group chat just to get my notes i'm like i'm very active in our group chat now even more so i had to mute our group chat because i watched literally two hours after you guys but like i don't remember my thoughts uh my first thought mora looks like page de sorbo tonight did anybody else think that well yes with the side bangs with the side bangs and they just it's like very audrey very audrey heppard i think they all like look similar yeah i just thought it. Yeah. I wrote it down.

21:27Thank you for sharing that. I wanted to get it out first in case other people thought that, you know, like I had my own original thought. Disney night at Dancing with the Stars. We had individual dances and team dances. And I did not know that that was happening. Me neither. Also, Cynthia Erivo. Oh, yeah. The bald woman who's actually I feel not really running out of goodwill anymore because I think she gained a lot of goodwill last night. And because like the wicked thing is over. So people are going back to judging Cynthia as Cynthia. And like realizing how talented she is. She's so talented. And I don't even know her extensive Broadway background, but whatever she was saying on the panel last night, she's obviously an expert.

22:02And I was very impressed with her overall. And her ability to like express herself. And like, you know, I feel like the other judges, some of them do. And also she did give critiques. I feel like a lot of the guest judges like won't say anything bad. And she gave, I think, on the nose marks. And her and Bruno were having a time. Were they? Yeah, it was just sort of like giving girls kiki-ing. Like they were just like. I'm cracking up. That's so Bruno. Yeah, totally. He had a rough day. Yeah, right. So he was excited to go party last night. So who went first? Oh, we have to talk about Julianne's bangs just briefly. Sure. People, like, couldn't get over her bangs. They were crazy. But, like, she is committed to her craft.

22:37She is. And people need to stop, like, analyzing every single thing that she wears and that she does. Like, she is a chameleon, first of all. She can wear anything. She's gorgeous. She's thin. She's having fun with fashion. She's also an amazing host. I feel like people clown on her. I found it. But like the way she keeps the show moving and even like the awkward moment, she actually like last night where she asked a dumb question. She was like, what did I say? And I just think hosting is really hard. A lot of people start hosting who aren't trained hosts. And I think she does not get enough credit for being actually an amazing host. I think also the contestants really like her. And like she's in on the joke, which is a huge check in her column.

23:15And she gives us so much with all of her outfits and her looks. And her dancing. But even still, like every, she really shows up and like does the most for the job. So I feel like people are just so hard on her. just like nitpick things and it's like just enjoy the fashion okay maybe you don't get it but she's trying no but she's succeeding she looks amazing all the time she's like i wouldn't choose every outfit that she does but she always looks nice yes she always looks nice first we had amber glenn and pasha Pashkov. They danced to Go the Distance. Oh, no, A Star is Born. A Star is Born from Hercules. A star is born. We're actually in very much a Hercules era in our house. So this dance meant a lot to me.

23:53And I also, I did really love the message, you know, that she's just always been this like very strong looking girl. And she always felt like that like chipped away at her femininity. But now she leans into it. It was a fine dance. Honestly, it wasn't like breathtaking or anything. I do feel, I know everyone, I feel like I say the same thing every week, but there were so many songs that I did not know. And I feel like dancing to Be Our Guest and then dancing to a random song from Aida, like it's literally not fair. It's not. I guess, but if you, the dancer yourself, like know the song and it means something to you. I don't think that they have a huge say in what they get to dance to. Yeah. But these songs are all good songs.

24:29It's like maybe you've not heard it before. But once you hear it a couple of times, it's pretty good. Yeah. But like watching a performance for a song that you know, it makes you like so like you want it. You're going to like the dance no matter what. So I feel like with, you know, I didn't know this song. So with Amber, I was just judging like probably a little harsher. I've heard. You have. Yeah. It was a good dance. It was fine. It was good. I don't have anything negative to say. And sometimes I do. Yeah. We'll leave it at that. 34 out of 40 for them. Then Maura and Mark danced to You Can Fly, You Can Fly, You Can Fly from Peter Pan. She was Tinkerbell. They did the jive, which she shared was the worst part of her.

25:03Tinker Hell. She's in Tinker Hell. It was actually cute last night because I felt like we saw more of her personality. Whereas you were just saying we weren't seeing it. Now, the dance earned kind of low scores. They were at the bottom, 32 out of 40. It's not her style. Like, it's not where she's very elegant. She's long. So, like, there's these waltzes that other people find really challenging. She probably excels at more than the average person. But these, like, quick little tiny movements. She's kind of lanky and tall and it didn't look right. And I think the judges critiques reflect that. I think the scores reflected that. I think she it was better than she thought because she seemed surprised by the eights.

25:37I think she was actually happy. All four eights is not a bad score. And a couple of weeks ago was a great score. But everyone is just scoring higher now so they're just not hacking it I also thought Carrie Ann's commentary was very interesting because we saw in the package like Maura seems to be running out of steam stamina energy and you really need to take care of yourself in the competition because it's so grueling the training is grueling and you can feel that she is just like wasting away. Yeah. I think Carrie Ann like was referring to her weight, right? Well, she's a very thin person and obviously like thinness doesn't always mean like you're the healthiest. And I think that like when you're doing such cardio,

26:17like you actually need to be eating a lot. Yeah. And you are losing weight on the show and you need to keep your energy up. So yes, perhaps it is about the thinness, but it was also from what Maura was saying in the packages, you can just see she's just completely worn out. So even if she was a different size, if she's saying those things, like she's not taking care of herself enough for the competition. I do feel like it was like kind of inappropriate to say like on TV in front of everyone, just sort of singling her out. And she was like, and I mean this for all the contestants, like that's something you really pull her to the side and say, I didn't think it was appropriate, honestly. I thought it was like a fair response to the package that we saw.

26:55No, because in the package, Maura was like really saying that she's just struggling with, with this dance in particular. And Carrie Ann just like kind of got so serious and it was weird oh it was awkward it was inappropriate oh i thought it was like an appropriate response and a very true statement for every true statement and if anyone's package no matter what they look like if anyone's package like was like more is where she's just sort of out of steam yeah but that would be a good thing to say is like remember to take care of yourself this competition is very difficult for sure more is just like very visibly thin and like i don't know i probably just made her like what if she had said it to a fat person you wouldn't like that

27:35and we would say it was about weight too yeah of course i would you can't say to anyone yeah no you can say it i'm saying like pulling them to the side because i do believe carrie ann was coming from a genuine place of concern of course so like I would have just pulled her to the side if like you really feel that way. But I think it's also something that everyone should hear. Even people at home like you need if you're training like an athlete, like take care of yourself. Absolutely. Don't just like run yourself down. Absolutely. That's not going to be the best thing. Absolutely. There's a time and a place to say these things. Oh, and then we need to talk about Derek's attempt at an Irish Irish accent because obviously I didn't sound like a high-ranking Nazi officer okay Christoph Waltz in

28:09Inglourious Bastards like I could tell the second he started talking he regretted it and listen I get it every time I do an accent it becomes Russian like every time Ben does an accent it's Scottish like Jamaican yeah I get it accents are hard of course irish specifically now derrick not cool so very triggering for me to hear that honestly like he put himself out there he tried something let's make fun of the girl who took a risk creatively yeah he really did he really did also every time derrick sorry i wrote in my in our group chat, Derek accidentally entering Nazi territory. He tried to do an Irish accent. Goebbels energy. Derek, I'm not offended and I forgive you. I forgive you too. Every time

28:55Derek is just speaking, I just have to do sort of an audit on Derek. I'm just thinking about Derek a lot. And what conclusions did you come to? And I just love him. There's only one Derek. So true. Irreplaceable. He really is. I agree. He's really great. And he does like really care about the contestants. He gives good critiques. He gives great critiques. Agreed. He middle grounds it too. Like he knows when people need to be like. Coddled. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. But I think he's really great. Yeah. Then we have Tatiana and Jan. They danced to Aida. They did a contemporary dance, which was very beautiful. And the judges loved it. Carrie Ann had chills as she let us know. And I think that it goes back to what we said last week.

29:32Like contemporary as a dance style, I'm sure it's like a valid style. But when we think about in the context of all the different ballroom styles, it's so much easier. And you just get graded better. Everyone who does a contemporary gets a high score. It was a great dance, but this was my note in the group chat. Them giving Tatiana this old random ass Broadway show to dance to, question mark, they hate her. They had to explain the show in the package. Like, we're dancing to Aida, which is a really old show. Like, nobody knew the show. Nobody knew the song. Hello? Like, come on. They never give her, like good good songs i guess i would like to know more about the selection process at the bare minimum i had heard of all

30:10the other shows maybe not the exact song i haven't i don't know she got a 33 out of 40 which was really good and better than more so she was not bottom of the pack she was up out of the pack she was not in the bottom period she was chosen as a team captain actually because she has the lowest combined score um and i want to talk about her selects i've actually saw a lot of people talking about this i was really surprised by the very like gym class picking of teams yeah um it remained positive but that can be really hurtful like i'm the best answer there two perfect scores in a row but it wound up being great for jenna because she was on an amazing team. The better team. Tatiana, girl, like, you chose

30:48poorly. Like, I know she was choosing because she's a real one. You know, she's just choosing people who she has to rehearse with them and hang out with them and the people that she likes. But, like, the other team was stacked. Like, yeah, she chose Maura first. If I was choosing first. I think she wanted to assemble a team of women. Jenna Dewan. If I was choosing first, I'm going with the best. That's how these pickings go. And if I want to be with a woman, I would go Jenna Dewan. Obviously. So she hates Jenna Dewan. Yeah. Then she went Amber. Amber is the right second woman's choice. And then it would... If I had to pick a woman... Maura or Julia Stiles. Yeah. So she let the other team just get stacked and they got the worst

31:27song and the worst outfits I know you hate Zootopia but I know I like that song I'm sorry we're all in this together like the Lord when they did their Zootopia was so cute and they all wore the pants and I thought it was like so camaraderie and it was giving camp talent and it was really giving like globo gym i mean no uh average average shows like we're coming together we're gonna be the best exactly really scrappy and great i'm like honestly the other team is so stacked they're dancing to something so obvious like i feel like there's gonna be no heart and it's gonna be they're actually not going to win because it's gonna be like globo gym no they had an amazing time it was amazing the whole thing was

31:59so uneven their costumes were like seriously so much worse their song was so much worse their dance was so much worse like no i i feel like as much as worse their song was so much worse their dance was so much worse like no I I feel like as much as high school musical is so good and better you think on its face it's also so obvious and a little corny that it's hard to make it your own without just doing like no I think in Dancing with the Stars world like that corniness is invaluable I actually thought for a second that the underdogs were going to win. That's beautiful. And then when they came out with what they came out with, it was perfection. Yeah, it was really good. Yeah, I really enjoyed that.

32:31I didn't know that was happening. And I enjoyed the team dances. God forbid they make the episode just like shorter. No, we have to watch team dances. Okay, that's fine. Harry Shum and Jenna Johnson danced to Mary Poppins' Super Casual Fragilistic Expealadocious. 40 out of 40. It was insane. It was of 40. It was insane. It was Jordan Fisher. It was going to go down in the history books of Dancing with the Stars. It was the first dance of the night that I actually knew the song to, so I felt like he was automatically at an advantage. He was so Mike Chan from Glee. Like, the knee walking, everything. The graphics in the back coordinating with their moves. I thought that was brilliant. They did get a little

33:06bit, I thought it at the time, and then I saw people on Twitter saying like, why the end of the dance was like a solo act for Jenna. She's doing like an eight turn pirouette and like, where's your partner? But I liked it. And then they just like ended randomly with this huge lift that felt like a middle finger to carry him. That's how I thought it. That's funny. But they didn't have him in the lift because it's not your partner lifting so i just started as one giant middle finger on the dance floor i didn't think of it but you're 100 and i think them lifting her was like sim and was like two people was like symbolizing like zoom out and connect the dots it's one big finger and it was like turned a thousand percent it was

33:40literally the best dance of the season yeah it was amazing was amazing. And Jenna choreographed it amazing. Obviously, he danced amazing. But the whole thing, the whole package put together was just perfection. Yeah, it really like endeared me to Harry Shum. Yeah, they also got rid of the umbrella at the exact right time when I was done watching them dance with an umbrella. Yeah, it's also like that is also the corny and obvious Mary Poppins. But they had to do it. It's corny night. Yeah. Disney is corny. Disney is cornball night. But they had to do it. It's corny night. Yeah. Disney is corny. Disney is cornball night. A hundred percent. And I love that. Me too. Then we had Ezra Frech and Daniela Karagash.

34:11They danced to The Little Mermaid, Under the Sea. He was Prince Eric. They got 37 out of 40. I'm glad they did samba because it reminded me like the dance that we were obsessed with of his was samba. No, which one? He's done a samba before. No, the whole point was they thought he would never do a samba on this show because he actually physically can't and then daniella said i think that you can no i thought they did a samba no when he's like doing his hip thing so many times whatever i fucking loved it i also loved his hair slicked back i think he like looks like a real like sexy little fish she choreographs him so Of course, the mechanics of doing these types of moves without a leg and the balance of everything

34:48is always very interesting. Then you really see it on the dance floor. You see the shifting of the hips, the shifting of the weight. It's magnificent. He's such a winner. But I will say this wasn't one of my up there favorite dances. Sometimes I'll watch him dance. Of the night or of his, you mean? Of his. Oh, it was up there for me. It was really good. Sometimes I'm blown away. It was really good. Sometimes I'm blown away. And it was really good. But also not every dance is going to blow you away. So I just need my boy to make it to the finals. Yep. And then it's on. Agreed. Julia Stiles and Ezra Sosa, they danced for me on mute to Satisfied from Hamilton. Which I think means a lot to a lot of people.

35:23And Liz Woods, of course. It means nothing to me. I know that song. To the groom, to the groom. I didn't know it. I know some Hamilton songs from TikTok. To the bride, to the bride. Alexander and her out of sleep. I've got an early meeting out of town. Like I know some of that. Of course, because Kelly Clarkson sings that one. Did she? She did a cover. It's beautiful. There's like a trend on. Of course, work, work, Angelica. work eliza and peggy like i know them from tiktok i didn't know that one um but i think that's like you could tell when the franchise like likes someone like giving them hamilton and tatiana's over here dancing to aida like please it was not even her worst dance like i honestly don't even have anything to say, good or bad.

36:05And like, spoiler alert, this being the one that got her sent home, I was like, oh. Honestly, I thought she had another week. The competition is stiffer. The only people who would have gone home are her, Tatiana or Fibula. And I'm going to put Maura down there too now. I actually would even swap Fibula and Maura. I would say Fibula's out of the danger zone. I would say so too. And now his scores are on par with Maura. And his dancing for the last two weeks has been like on par. And I think he has more fans. I also think Fibula's really enjoying himself. And I get the sense that Maura is not. Like even when they had the split screen of who's going home, like she didn't look like so, so happy.

36:42When people are on the chopping block and they hear their names there's like this huge sense of relief that washes over them more just like okay another week like I think she knows to mind her face because she'll go viral for looking too happy like Whitney Liova didn't oh no I got the sense from the package I think it's really hard like and I think it's not fun at times she really wants to think she really wants to be an American TV star. Yes. And this is what it takes. She doesn't want to go home. She's been working for so long. She was on Love Island in 2020. She's finally having her moment. She does not want to go home. Oh, I really get the sense that she wouldn't be upset if she got eliminated.

37:17I think there would be a huge... And she's made it really far. At this point, there's now seven contestants left. And there's only four that go to the final. So there's only three more eliminations. That's actually making it really far. at this point there's now seven contestants left and there's only four that go four that go to the final so there's only three more eliminations that's actually making it really far like that's sufficient and that keeps you in like the dancing with the stars universe but at one point she was a shot for the finale for the finale yeah but now maybe she'd just take sixth place jen and duan and val they danced Our Guest. They got 40 out of 40. They brought in Steve Kazee of Twilight fame.

37:46Were you okay? I was okay, but I was very glad to see Steve Kazee and learn about him. His background. I, of course, thought of you immediately. I didn't know that he was on Broadway. I just thought, like, he did the Twilight soundtrack and called it a day. Now, I have a hot take. I thought, like, she danced amazing. And it was a 10 out of 10 performance. But I wasn't obsessed with the choreography. Like, Be Our Guest is such a slam dunk. I'm sorry. There's not a better song ever made by Disney ever. It is joy. Everyone knows it. She's dressed as Belle. And I don't know. When it ended, I was like, oh, wait, that's it? Like, I wasn't really obsessed with the choreography. But that's what I mean about when you get sort of like that obvious song that everybody loves.

38:24It's like, it's almost hard to select, to crush it because the expectations are so high. Also, I saw something so weird this morning. You know, Dana McKellar of Hallmark fame, right? I don't. You don't? Who? Danica? You'll see. I don't. I know Danica Patrick. Danica. She's played like, of Aaron Rodgers fame. She's played a royal princess. She's played someone who married into royalty. But I guess she did Dancing with the Stars. You don't know this lady. She's played someone who married into royalty. But I guess she did Dancing with the Stars. You don't know this lady. You know her. Everybody knows Danica. We don't actually. I don't know Danica. Okay. She did Dancing with the Stars years ago. Wow. Val was her partner. Okay. On Disney night, they did Beauty and the Beast.

39:00Be our guest. A quick step. You're kidding. Does that not look exactly like Jenna? It does. That's insane that they did the same. Isn't that weird? It looks like Jenna. Same glam and everything. That's weird. I just, yes, I hear you on like the, the high net worth songs being almost like a trap, but like, I think Jenna Johnson crushed it in a high like in Super Califragilist. Everyone knows that song. It's possible to crush, but I think it's harder than you think. And it's not just they did crush. They got a 40. But like, I don't know. I was like, this is not Hall of Fame. It's not going in one of those. It's so obvious. It's Be Our Guest. And they were doing some great dancing. Like, it's hard to make it your own.

39:45That's all I'm saying. No, I just think the choreography was bad. Like, I don't think it's, yeah, I think it could be a trap. A hundred percent. But also, like, just do it good. Like, Jenna. She did it good. Sorry. Choreograph it well. Like, there was no big moment. Like, it was all just good and fine. And they did all the moves. And they got a perfect score. technically everything was done right they had you know you need to have as many quick steps in a quick step to consider it a quick step it was just like i wasn't dazzled like i wasn't you know be our guest is like one of my like literal favorite songs in the whole world so i was just like i wouldn't end it i actually because i couldn't believe it ended too much that's why no no no it's not it was just not like it wasn't wow

40:25it was a well-executed dance i agree it was perfect but it wasn't it didn't like wasn't moving yeah i was actually moved by harry shum juniors yeah and i don't even feel for him you don't get it i kind of do now i'm like yeah that's mike chan like they've they've they've made no references to glee by the way like they're doing him no favors crazy anatomy this crazy we don't give a fuck okay bring back mike chan then we had connor they've made no references to Lee, by the way. Like, they're doing him no favors. Grey's Anatomy, this Grey's Anatomy. We don't give a fuck, okay? Bring back Mike Chan. Then we had Conor Wood and Riley Arnold doing a very romantic dance to I See the Light from Tangled.

40:54They got a 32 out of 40, so tying with Maura, all eights. Giving him Tangled. Like, they knew what they were doing. I don't know if you know, Gen Z is obsessed with Tangled, and the live action has just been cast. People been like obsessed fan fiction casting like for years who's gonna be uh what's his name the guy and who's gonna be and so then they gave it to milo manheim people are obsessed with him he's also connected to dancing with the stars so like they knew what they were doing giving him because fibula like is the gen z his tiktoks are so viral like he's doing everything right both on the dance floor and off the dance floor and not to keep bringing it back to tatiana doing aida but like do you know what i mean like it was it was perfection like tangled and i don't

41:36know this song i actually didn't i don't know the song either so i thought it was like beautiful and i loved riley's hair and i love the dancing and they're obviously very much in love. But the song and the dance actually didn't do that much for me. It was the two of them. Yeah. I don't know this. I would say it was on par with Aida because I thought that was a beautiful song and they dance beautifully. And that's how I felt about this. Yeah. Tatiana like made the most of what she was given. But I think people and not me, but like the corner that really Fibula represents, which is this like youth movement. movement riley too she's literally 21 tiktok they are obsessed with tangled so it was like it was

42:09definitely a layup and he crushed it yeah i loved her outfit yes me as well obviously like they're in love and then you saw milo manheim brought a cavalier on the screen in the facetime you know what i was seeing he was on the screen for two seconds'm like, is that a beagle or a cavalier? I could not tell. And then the dog disappeared. In that moment, you can't see, but I choose to see a cavalier. I also thought, just mind you, like we had this, like you're definitely, yeah. So that was like cute for cavalier representation. A thousand percent. Then we had the team dances. As we said, the two in the bottom, Tatiana and Connor got to pick their teams. We had team, this is going to be hard for me to say I just sounded out breathe through it team Slaytopia team Slaytopia because

42:54they danced to Zootopia and they were slaying and that's what I mean when I say like the teams were just uneven like even in their names like they obviously just went for really chuggy girl power. They looked like the Cheetah Girls in those outfits. It was awful. It was corny. It was not highbrow at all. Even the costumes. The HSM costumes were sick. The Dancing with the Stars varsity jackets. It was just, honestly, they looked like they went to Party City on Tatiana's team. But they all wore the pants. The pants are great because everything looks good, but then we know like it's a handicap a little bit. Yeah. And I just want to say, I love Alfonso, but like getting Julianne and Alfonso are not the

43:34same. Alfonso's not a pro. He's just a really, really good common dancer. Like, so I love Alfonso. I think he brings like actually a lot of personality that maybe Julianne doesn't. I do feel like, yeah. It's not the obvious. They should have gotten two, like, eliminated pros, you know? Perhaps. No, but the thing is, Alfonso won team dance last year. Like, it is possible. And I think with Alfonso, it's almost like that, you know. Brotherly. No, and it's, like, fun, and you can make it funny and, like, really quirky with Julianne. It's, like, obviously going to be so good. So the bar is almost higher. I'm just saying, not that you're wrong, but it's not always so obvious. Like, oh, if you got Alfon good. So the bar is almost higher. I'm just saying not that you're wrong, but it doesn't,

44:06it's not always so obvious. Like, Oh, if you got Alfonso, it was pretty obvious last night, better song, better team. As Alfonso said, Alfonso was being funny last night. I don't know. Like he just decided he loosened his tie a little bit. He like, he saw everyone else having fun and he was like, you know what? Me too. Cause he told the judges, they're not, they're not judging Julian and Alfonso. Of course. And he repeated the tinker hell joke, which he obviously thought was funny. I thought she might get in trouble for saying hell. Like, I don't know what the rules are. Maybe. This is a family friendly show. It is. I think it's okay. I think it's okay too. Yeah, I definitely felt him also like, maybe it's because he knew he was going to dance

44:40and he was like excited and he just like was one of the contestants. He definitely had like like more relaxed energy then the wildcats went that was connor ezra harry jenna duan jenna duan like what are we talking about so stacked from the beginning of the journey for the team dances like between like every time choosing teams choosing a song choosing a team name choosing an outfit they just chose wrong. I know, but I just feel like maybe you don't like Tatiana's choices, but those are her choices. And now she has to live with even like Aida or the songs that she has chosen. I don't think she chose Aida. I really don't. We need clarity. Yes, I actually would love to know the process because Jackson Olsen keeps making these TikToks that like he was going to be dancing to the greatest showman.

45:23I guess like he fancies himself like a P.T. Barnum of his generation. No he's very inspired by greatest showman. He said that's what set him on a course of dancing. That movie specifically. I feel similarly. So he made like all these TikToks about how he was going to dance and then he found out they were including P.T. Barnum in the like intro and he was like when you find out like he's honestly like really centering himself it's being really annoying um so I can see like him having wanted to dance to that but also them wanting him to have danced to that like a perfect marriage well maybe Jackson can answer this question did the talent get to choose the show they got to dance to did Tatiana have any say yeah but I would really and in the last few

46:00weeks I know you didn't like her dance for Super Bowl, her song for Super Bowl night. Yeah, I didn't. Did she choose that? I think you might just not like Tatiana's choices. And it's hard for you. Well, if the team dance is any indicator. Yeah, the team she picked. She got to pick. She got first pick too. I would love to know who picked the outfits. She got first pick. I would love to know who picked the outfits. I'm just saying. Like Jenna Dewan being chosen last. Like my heart legit broke. I felt like I was in middle school. Well because she's obviously the best dancer. And so now that we are where we are who do you think is final four and who do you think is going to win as your prediction

46:34as of today can keep changing? Ezra. Harry. I think they have to include Jenna and also I think Maura really doesn't qualify for the top four anymore. So, like, making it even more obvious that it would be Jenna and Amber. Which is kind of boring. It is boring. Just like the four people who we knew were better dancers than everyone. The whole time. Except for Ezra. And that's why Ezra winning is, like, the only way that we right the wrongs of this season. Because, sorry, Harry Shum Jr., you can't win. No, Harry can't win. Jenna can win a little bit and i think she doesn't have a lot of fans people more so because she's a woman you know like i just feel like elaborate on that i don't know i just feel like harry can't win right all right i'm fine but

47:15i just feel like for jenna like she actually has overcome a little bit more yes she danced in her 20s in step up but like she's had. She's a woman of a certain age. I don't know. When you're on So You Think You Can Dance, like, I know she hosted it, but like, you're in the dance world. No, no, she's in the dance world for sure. But it's not like, you know, for men, like they just get to be like physically fit their whole life. Like never have their body changed. No challenges. Like, I don't know how many kids she has, but she's gone up and down. And she, I feel like she, you know, I'm more impressed by her ability to dance so well at this age. She hasn't really like changed a lot of hearts and minds besides yours like I

47:49don't think she has like a ton of votes every week I think it's really her judges scores that carry her through from week to week so I think that will stop her from getting the mirror ball I think like Ezra sort of being this like unknown to a lot of people overcoming these enormous challenges like he's obviously the winner he just needs to keep doing what he's doing yeah i like that and then i think for amber if she does have to go and train that we could swap her out for fibula i think that would be exciting for people i also think it would be a real underdog story like i think of all the people like that we're discussing fibula's the only person with z actually no sorry ezra with zero dance experience like and to see

48:24somebody who like actually kind of late in the game like finally figure it out it's very inspiring. Yeah. And people love him and he represents like a huge audience of like young Gen Z. So I think putting him in final four like might be interesting especially if Amber can't attend. That would be crazy if Fibula made the final four like. Yeah. Especially because like first week. He was on the chopping block for the first ten weeks. No and it's like first week it was like Connor and Connor which one will go home nobody cares. It was like Connor or Sarah Jane like. Are you ready one will go home? Nobody cares. Connor or Sarah Jane. Are you ready for our next story? I am. The CFDA Awards were last night

48:52and fashion's night out. It was a big night for like the it girls. I feel like, I feel like it really cemented like who's an it girl right now, you know? Because it wasn't like this free for all where everyone was invited. Also a headline for me, like Alex Earl being styled by luxury lawfor-all where everyone was invited. Also, a headline for me, like, Alex Earl being styled by luxury law. Yeah, I saw that as well. Also, a headline for me, it felt like a nice change of pace after Halloween where everyone got down to their skivvies. And, like, dressed like a horse. I literally texted you. I said, why is everyone dressed so modest? I loved it. Oh, yeah. And then I was like, you didn't tell me they were horse on Halloween.

49:20But, yeah, no, there was, like, and Halloween is that sort of energy. Yeah. And then it just felt like... Totally opposite. Total opposite, which was, like, a nice change of pace. Like, see everyone with their clothes on, no, there was like, and Halloween is that sort of energy. And then it just felt like. Totally opposite. Total opposite. But which was like a nice change of pace. Like see everyone with their clothes on, like looking lovely. Literally except Alandria. She was the only person I saw. Except for Alandria. Who didn't wear pants. She didn't get the memo. It was modest. We're putting our pants on. We're wearing hems to the ground. It's new. And we're covering our boobs. Even Brooks Nader put clothes on.

49:42Yes. Yeah. And that's hard. Cover her head as well. That's hard for Brooksie. I don't really know like what the event is or what goes on inside to be honest i don't really care so i think it's really like you know the oscars of fashion like awards for fashion that makes sense so we had american women's wear designer of the year went to rachel scott for dm tema that's crazy i've never heard of either of those things. The other people, everyone else you've heard of, Catherine Holstein for Kate, Michael Kors, Tori Burch, and Wes Gordon. Those are the nominees? Yeah, Wes Gordon for Carolina Herrera, but Rachel won. Love celebrating American fashion. Dia Tima, American menswear designer of the year, went to Ralph Lauren.

50:18Classic stuff. It was definitely Ralph's year. It's honestly been Ralph's year for like the last five years. I know, but like this year, everything is like Ralph, Lauren, Kors, like the last five years. I know, but like this year, everything is like Ralph Lauren core. Like everyone wants. Very inspired by like the aesthetic. He totally created. Yes. American accessory designer of the year. I went to Anna Corey. Four. I guess that's her, the name of her accessories brand. Google American emerging designer of the year. Went to Colleen Allen. Okay. The international designer of the Year went to Colleen Allen. Okay. The International Designer of the Year was Anthony Vaccarello for Saint Laurent.

50:51Okay. I've heard of it. I'm less interested in the awards like more so. Fashion Icon of the Year, Peter Marino. I love his work. Positive Change Award. Goes to Jackie Osh, right? Close, but Tori Burch. Oh, she's a queen and you know what this the uh rise and fall of the tori birch brand could actually be studied the way she's like so back yeah she's back 100 back she like really leaned on like influencer culture tiktok she and her shit's really cute and after those flats i thought we were never coming back well those flats it's hard to you know second the flats like those flats are like a lightning strike yeah lightning strike twice it's true and then like the tumultuous divorce see wonder who could

51:35forget the spite store the original do you think that larry david's curb episode about spite stores it's literally about see wonder there's a lot of things it's about what else something like closer to home i was thinking but you're opening a spite store no i wouldn't but what are you referring to like i'll tell you off like i wouldn't and nobody would care because yeah yeah that's a spite 1000 yeah i hope to open up a spite store one day really yes i could see it being something like i actually relate i like that episode of curb That's a spite. 1,000%. Yeah. I hope to open up a spite store one day. Really? Yes. I could see it being something like, I actually relate. I like that episode of Curb because I can relate to the fact of being like so offended, pissed off by something so minute that you literally will like go into debt, open up a dumbass store.

52:17And then that episode is so funny. Ben would do it. She goes to the jewelry store. It's like Mila Kunis' spite store. Like funny stuff. Seriously funny stuff. Ben has a spite store inite Store. Like, funny stuff. Seriously funny stuff. Ben has a Spite Store in his future. A thousand percent. And other awards that, you know, are very highbrow and, you know, Let's talk about the notable attendees. Yes. Not only Alex Earle, but Ashton as well. Yes, Ashton also just signed with a modeling agency so she has decided to model to spite Thomas and Mai's advice. A hundred percent. Who else was there? I'll tell you. It seemed like Alex and Ashton were like really only one of very few from the interwebs.

52:54Julia Fox was there. Okay. She's classic. I like her outfit. Zoe Kravitz, of course. Gracie Abrams and Colleen Allen, the emerging designer of the year. Oh, yeah. It was very much like the Met Gala where these random groups of celebrities were all together. And it was because they were all dressed by the same designer. I'm sure you saw Zoe Kravitz, Hailey Bieber, and the gold Luke. I forget who the designer was. Yes. Brooke Snader. Mm-hmm. Looking beautiful. She looked great. Jessie Murph. Oh, she's like a singer. I've seen her on the internet. I didn't know she was so fashion. I actually saw her perform live. Lola Tongue. Belly. Belly. Belly's very high fashion. Yeah. She should be. Elle Fanning, of course.

53:37I just love her. Are you following at all the Hunger Games? Like movie premiere? They've done like a world tour they've done like new hunger games movie yes yes what is it hunger games movie i don't know prequel i think it's yeah it's like a whole new slate i don't know if literally anyone except maybe elizabeth banks actually no i think it's a prequel and l fanning plays effie a young elizabeth thanks beautiful mckenna grace Do you know her? She's from Young Sheldon. It sounds familiar. She's like the really smart girl who Sheldon's always beefing with. I'm cracking up. She's like a former child actress. She looks so much like the actress who played Don Draper's daughter, Sally Draper. Kiernan.

54:18She looks just like Kiernan when she was a kid, but now she's grown and she's like the new Jennifer Lawrence. It's like a whole new cast of young talent. the uh world tour has been like this huge thing everyone like is fighting for looks and looks Elle Fanning's been looking amazing did you see her dress as like a ballerina and like a jewelry box no all this has missed me oh it's actually been really fabulous to watch it's not happening for the reels mamas oh soon give it give it some time. Um, no, it's okay. I'll stick with my reels, you know. My algo. Then we have Sarah J. Nader got the invite. You're kidding. Let me say who you are. She was with a designer named Brett Hyman. Wow. That's a tough last name.

54:58Yeah. Heyman. There's a hey. Hopefully. There's an E in there. Uh, Lea Michele. Alondra. Rosé. Suki Waterhouse. Okay. Fashionless night out. Alondra, yeah. The look isn't. It's a mess, honestly. It's just not. On par with what everyone else is wearing. Maybe she just didn't know. Yeah, it's possible. This is new. It's obviously a big, exciting night for her. just didn't know. It's just, yeah, it's possible. Like this is new. It's obviously like a big, exciting night for her. And like, she didn't know. But it would be like better elsewhere. Yeah. Like the VMAs. Yeah. When in town, like I would always rather be like over, you know, over formal for an event like this. I agree. And in general, I would say I hate feeling underdressed.

55:40Slob. Not that she's underdressed actually. No, no, no. I'm just having a separate conversation now. Like if, but choosing between being overdressed or underdressed, I would always like to be overdressed. That's just my personality. Same. Except being overdressed is not all it's cracked up to be because I do feel like you feel like you took this so seriously. Like kind of like a dope. Yes. But the feeling of being overdressed and experiencing that, I prefer that feeling over the feeling of being underdressed and experiencing that. Slob. Slovenly. Yeah. I just feel like, oh, I shouldn't even go to this restaurant. Thousand percent. We actually can't go because mommy's not dressed properly. You know, I literally cannot step foot in the door.

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1:02:15Three sources confirmed to Variety. One source says the series will feature Janet Jackson discussing the infamous wardrobe malfunction that took place during their performance at the Super Bowl. Another source says that he discusses some of former girlfriend Britney Spears' recent comments as well. Further details on the series, which is directed by Fisher Stevens, were not available at the time of this article's publication. Reps for Timberlake, Jackson, and Apple had no comment. Clap if you care. Didn't they already do this? had no comment. Clap if you care. Now, of course- Didn't they already do this? Modern documentaries have not been kind to Justin Timberlake. His DUI also didn't help.

1:02:53Like there has been like a very sort of catastrophic ending to Justin Timberlake's career in the last couple of years. So I understand him wanting to tell his side of the story. And I'm sure like if we heard his side of the story when it comes to Britney, like sure there's two sides to every story. And yeah, I guess people do want to get down to the bottom of, did he rip her shirt off? Or did she, you know what I mean? Was it planned? The fact that they're doing it together makes it seem like it really was an accident. And that's the story they're both telling. He doesn't want to be known as ripping off someone's shirt. She doesn't want to be known as showing her dits on national television.

1:03:22That's their story and they're singing to it. I just don't care. And I feel like I'm one of his biggest haters. But I'm kind of over hating him. He's so not interesting enough for me to even hate. And honestly when I saw the video of him. The world tour. It was funny. I just kind of over it. Just moved on. But I do feel like when you're a celebrity who's fallen out of favor. And you're having bad publicity. There's two things you can do. You can do a docuseries or you can two things you can do you can do a docu-series or you can do a roast or you can do a book and i think in this situation a roast is exactly what he needs couldn't agree because all of these things are so unserious except for the dui which i do feel like people have moved on from we've seen the video and

1:03:59all celebrities have holding in new orleans there's the hand holding but a little unserious hand holding isn't so serious. And his wife has forgiven him. So all of these things are things that could be poked at by comedians and just make him seem human. And I think that would be the better strategy for him. That's an amazing call. Tom Brady needed a docuseries, not a roast. So true. Sometimes people just get their buttons confused. Like, should I press the button for documentary? Should I press the button for roast? Yeah. And by documentary, I mean telling your own story so it can be a documentary it could be a memoir it could be a sit down interview a podcast whatever um or are we gonna make fun of it are we gonna do serious are we gonna do funny and i think it

1:04:34depends on what your crimes are yes and yes i agree that justin timberlake's aside from the dui but like that's unfortunately just like fodder for every celebrity his crimes are relatively like unserious except for the you, him almost killing someone driving drunk. But yes, I think people would have loved that. It's a way to get in on the joke. And I feel that... Because he right now is just so unlikable. And I think a roast makes you more likable. I also think like roast culture has changed. Like it used to be this thing on Comedy Central. Oh, they're disgusting. Yeah, they're like disgusting. Now they're on streamers. So like there's really nothing off limits. And it's like your wife can't be doing the next 7th Heaven. Yeah. Yeah, they're like disgusting. Now they're on streamers. So like there's really nothing off limits.

1:05:07And it's like your wife can't be doing the next Seventh Heaven. Yeah. And you're having disgusting roast. I wish that they were what they were when like Justin Timberlake really, no, excuse me, Justin Bieber, really effectively used it to rehabilitate his image. Same with Alec Baldwin. I think that was a really successful roast. Now they're just like, I don't know, they don't follow the same formula formula it's like it could be as long as you want it to be because it's on a streamer before it was like this 90 minute thing on Comedy Central and it was like great yes he should do a roast I just wish roasts were like not what they used to be I mean they're really nasty now yeah they could be though there could be like parameters no I feel like there are

1:05:43parameters and that was like remember Tom Brady was like, they were told you can't say stuff about the wife, but everybody did. Like people don't give a fuck. No, but also in terms of the. What they air. No, just the kind of what the inappropriateness. Yeah. Like the level. The disgusting jokes. Like if it were PG-13 or even, you know, not. I think with a roast, everything is on the table. And that's why if it's not for you, don't do a roast. And if your biggest thing that everyone's talking about is your divorce and how you chose football over your divorce, and then you say you can't talk about it, well, then we don't have a roast. You're not a good candidate for a roast. So that's why I think for so many reasons, Tom Brady, before the roast was likable, he

1:06:18didn't have a likability problem. It's true. And then it's like, well, who the fuck do you think you are? Like people who like will willingly sit down for roasts when you are so well liked it's like okay well maybe we shouldn't like you yeah yeah you're almost like baiting us into not like so i think a docu-series talking about like how hard he worked to be a football player we would have understood maybe because i understand why you did the decision of never giving it up and he is the greatest of all time he has six super bowl rings like yeah that doesn't just happen. Whatever he did in his life to achieve that is a story worth telling. I don't think making fun of yourself is the right move.

1:06:53100% agreed. I think it was net-net really bad for him. And I could see a world in which if Justin Timberlake had done one properly, like, it really, very similar to Justin Bieber, like, or Martha Stewart did one too. Like, it can really change people's opinions of you. Yeah, and you just seem like you're able to take a joke, and we could all just move on. No, but now we have to watch your four-part series. So serious. I'm not watching this. No, of course not. Don't ask me for a recap. Of course we're not watching it. You guys know I had to cancel my Apple TV. The Super Bowl thing, if I think about the Super Bowl thing enough, yeah, it's crazy. Crazy that that happened. I've moved on. I don't know that we'll ever get the truth.

1:07:32Is there a real truth? Like, was it planned? I don't think so because that would be so inappropriate. Kids watch the Super Bowl. Like, that would be disgusting. Agreed. So it was an accident. And then it's a tragedy. Let's stop talking about it. And also, people say, like, Justin say like Justin knew what he was doing. But like you don't expect if you pull at someone's – if you pull my shirt, my nipples are not going to show. Yeah, but why was he pulling at her shirt? Why did she just have like a nipple pocket? Why did she have a piece of fabric that just – Honestly, we might have to watch the documentary to find out. I only want to – I think someone actually did a documentary on Justin. Just that. documentary to find out i only want to die i think someone actually did a documentary on just just that and i think he thinks that like because so much of his bad will has been

1:08:09fostered from these documentaries he's like well i'll have my own documentary and it's like no no no you misunderstood i didn't have to do all that no just give us seventh heaven the reboot okay and we'll forgive you yeah he could be in seventh heaven the reboot yeah he could like lead the church choir yeah playing very similar character to his character in Bad Teacher. You know, I like don't know Bad Teacher. That's why. And yeah, we also forget now that we're like taking a look at Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake at a glance, like his acting career. Friends with Benefits, like one of the best movies of all time. He actually is an amazing actor. He was in Social Network, right? He played that asshole.

1:08:50He also should do a roast and then he should go be a judge on The Voice or something like that. The Voice or shows of that nature is an amazing place to like quietly be living and just like wait for some of the negative feedback from the public to wash over. It comes and goes. He could go on American Idol, but it's a good place for a seasoned artist like himself to just park it and earn some goodwill. Amazing call. But nobody's asking me how should Justin Timberlake rehabilitate his career. Therein lies the issue, my sister. Are you ready for our next story? Ethan and Hila Klein are divorcing after- She hired Laura Wasser. She hired Laura Wasser. I was shook. ready for our next story ethan and gila klein are divorcing after she hired laura wasser she

1:09:26hired laura wasser i was shook if you guys don't know what's the equivalent like if you like hiring laura it's kind of like hiring johnny cochran if you're on trial for murder i don't know murder robert shapiro he was the murder she has divorced everyone. Like, who's anyone? Honestly, how much money was her podcast making? Well, also, she is suing him to cover her legal fees. I guess, yeah, like, I'm only getting divorced because you cheated on me. Why do I have to pay for this? I feel like that's not so crazy. So she's asking for joint custody of their three kids and spousal support, and she's asking for Ethan to pay her legal fees and for her maiden name to be restored. Those all seem like reasonable things.

1:10:04Honestly, the fact that she's not going for joint uh sole custody like she probably wouldn't get it because like nobody gets sole custody these days but like it's very nice of her yeah she claimed that he was having an affair for months and that after he initially downplayed what happened he owned up to the cheating about her alleged discovery she said i'm living in a nightmare i can't wake up from the blowbackback has been swift. The crew said they refused to work with him while sticking up for Hila. He posted one final comment. I'm working with Hila to urgently remove my ownership and financial stakes in any podcasts, Teddy Fresh, Teddy Glow, or any joint venture that I would profit from.

1:10:37All your support will go directly to Hila and the crew. I do this in the hope that people can still support Hila and the crew without this concern of enriching me. I know the crew will make an awesome show. They are packed to the brim with the most talented, creative, hilarious, and all-around great people. I don't know about that, but I have now been subjected to, like, you know, of course, in hindsight, there are people, I don't know how often they do a show, but it was him and his wife hosting the show, and the girl he ended up having an affair with was, like, some intern who had a microphone and slowly became... How many microphones did they have on the show? They have a couple. The producer has one.

1:11:08It's actually two of them. Yeah, right. There's like people all around. And there's some streams with the Hila. And this girl, sort of like nerdy looking girl, joined a while ago and like slowly incorporated herself into the fabric of the show. And so now, you know, in hindsight, people are finding clips. Nobody thought anything at the time I guess the idea that he would cheat on his wife with this like literal random intern is like so preposterous so now people are going back and I've seen a lot of the clips of just like they talk about weird things they're like like inappropriate things so like it's all weird yeah and it's like you could find a clip of him talking to a different microphone

1:11:42and yes in the context of an affair that's weird too yes but no there's a clip of him talking to a different microphone. And yes, in the context of an affair, that's weird, too. Yes. But no, there's a lot of it. So I'll have to start sending them to you. They're like these long clips. And I find myself watching them. I am really compelled by this. Like, show is good. Sort of. No, no. By the dynamics of this, like, genuine freak show. Like, everyone is weird. Like, it's just. And Hila is like, at least just from what I've seen from the clips, she's almost like slowly being like written out of the show. Like, she's never on camera. Like, she's there and no one listens to her and it's just like him going back and forth with this like curly haired intern it is so weird this saga

1:12:12like i understand if you're really invested in this family and this podcast why this is like insane like because i barely know the players i'm like oh you're all fucking weird like it's very strange i guess i saw that he dressed up for Halloween, like, one year, and he was cat in the hat, and Hila was thing one, and the intern was thing two. Okay. That's insane. Yeah. No, these people are just fucking weird. Like, of course, we can talk about the ethics of having an affair or whatever, but, like, Bateside and these are just, like, nerds who got, like, deeply uncool people who are famous. And that's always interesting to watch. It really is. I feel like that happens on the internet a lot that's sort of the point of the internet it

1:12:48happens a lot with celebrities too like because you think about it they're just like theater kids who aren't like inherently cool and then you like hear them in an interview and you're like you guys are weird like amanda seyfried she's weird like well yeah she's weird yeah so um the laura wasser of this all really threw me i guess i maybe didn't know how successful the podcast was. You do have to be like a woman of a certain stature to get a meeting with Laura Wasser. Well, I do feel like the podcast is successful. Yeah. It's not like she's at Wasser. They're like an H3 world over there where it's like. Multiple shows, networks. Yeah. Yeah. And I can imagine if you're in it, like it's very profitable.

1:13:21And if you don't listen to it, you've never heard of it. You know? Yeah. Everyone is really interested in what Trisha Paytas has to say do you know how they're all connected trisha oh yeah brother-in-law right um she's married to gila's brother yes the they don't speak none of them the breakup of the podcast was the breakup of their family like they do not speak um trisha did then she's doing press right now i think she wrote a book or something so she went on jay shetty so she did say on her podcast like i said all of this stuff about gila and ethan before i knew so like you're watching all these interviews thinking that it's like current prophecy she doesn't know but she does talk about like how awful they were to her like

1:13:58so she doesn't feel bad she still hates him her husband who's like this is her sister did i think like a little piece on their podcast about it too um she does not fuck with them and like she she doesn't feel bad like she's not sending her sympathies like she seriously hates these people crazy it's a really tangled web they weave over there where was her our fifth and final story some holiday news to get into the spirit olivia rodrigo will be releasing her first holiday song, Take Me Home, parentheses, for Christmas. Okay. With a music video starring Cynthia Nixon and SNL's Ben Marshall. Yeah. Who's that? You love him, Jackie. He's part of the trio. He's the redheaded one. He's part of the dry guys?

1:14:38Yeah. Burn After Eating? Burn this project. We're going to come. Do not disturb. No. Burn. Do not disturb. Burn. Do not open. It's a mix of everything we're saying. Destroy this. Destroy. Must destroy this. Burn and destroy. Destroy. It was a little comedy troupe. What are they called? Burn after eating. No, no no that's not it must destroy this right i think that's what it is um what is it he's like a comedy please don't destroy i think we said that i didn't um please don't destroy polite it didn't even occur to us so i love the idea. Like to me, not enough celebrities can release music about the holidays. They're all so good. When you hear it the first time, it's like whatever. But they all very slowly become like incorporated into Christmas culture.

1:15:39Chorus, Christmas Tree Farm, Ariana Grande, like everything she's ever done. Christmas cover, new. Kelly. Kelly. Is all I ever wanted. That's an original right yes i want to say i think kelly's number one for me of christmas i know like mariah carey because all i want for christmas she has like three great christmas songs oh sam mariah carey she's three yeah she does she's one no no she also has a rendition of oh santa that's amazing a cover yes i'm talking about originals oh all i want is also covers that are amazing of course cover. Yes. I'm talking about originals. Oh. All I want for Christmas is originals. Kelly also has also covers that are amazing. Yeah, of course. But Kelly has multiple.

1:16:09All in all, my favorite Christmas artist is Kelly Clarkson, period. You're absolutely right. Wrapped in red. And I'm actually really looking forward to seeing what she does this season now that she's outbound by the constraints of her daytime talk show. Yeah. I don't know what she'll, but she has two amazing Christmas albums that we have to hold, haven't to hold. And her, is she the one who wrote the one that she sings with Ariana Grande? Whoa. I don't know what she but she has two amazing Christmas albums that like we have to have and to hold and her she the one who wrote the one that she sings with Ariana Grande that's the best it's just like two people being insane in every year like around this time it

1:16:36comes up like constantly in my algorithm I will never not stop and watch the whole thing it is a master class in artistry and vocalism in queeniness it's the best thing i've ever seen in my whole life that was a christmas special that kelly taped or ariana taped maybe kelly i feel like she's a christmas special kind of gal i hope she hasn't severed ties with the network you know because when she was the nbc darling she was also hosting the rockefeller christmas tree lighting ceremony she performed multiple times. I hope that her contract is still valid. Yeah. She's the Christmas queen, actually. And her album's called When Christmas Comes Around. That's the second one, which is also a slay.

1:17:13And to be honest, like everybody's saying Mariah Carey is the queen of Christmas. Like we don't really talk about how she's actually not. Kelly Clarkson is. Yeah. And she's so bashful about it, but I'll say it. Yeah. On her behalf. I'm sure you saw like Mariah Carey did this huge campaign with Gucci. It's time. And it's just like she's the queen of Christmas. And it's like, yeah, girl, get your bag. And you do have an amazing, amazing song. And that song is the number one Christmas song of all time. It's the record setting. Yeah. But for the pop girlies, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9, and 10 are Kelly Clarkson. It's true. So who's the queen of Christmas? Sound off in the comments. Well, Olivia Rodrigo is coming for the crown.

1:17:45She has a holiday song coming out soon. It will be called Take Me Home for Christmas. Cute. Like, I really love, I can't have enough. I think that this space is honestly under-saturated. And I want more. I agree. Taylor's is so good. Oh, sorry. So good. And when she released it, I remember thinking, like, this is so random. But it has completely ingrained itself in the fabric of american christmas like it's so cute i think it's time like to start listening to christmas music in the house i think so too maybe i'll like put i'll like you know exert a little willpower for a few days so when i do listen like i'm so ready and maybe like my birthday will be the i think that's like a chapter yeah right because i do need to like come down from Halloween. People still have their decorations up.

1:18:25Like you guys get it together. Yeah. I don't want to see your old skeletons. Not on my birthday. No, I don't like you need to take down my birthday to take down your Halloween decorations. It's one whole week, October 31st to November 6th. That's one. I think that's so fair, especially with Halloween being on a Saturday this year. Like it was a hungover Sunday yesterday. It rained all day. It's gloomy today. You have by E O W. Yeah. That's all. And i'm not such like a decoration nazi when it comes to christmas like honestly leave them up leave them up forever until daylight savings honestly as long as it's a winter thing it's not a christmas thing it's a winter thing as long as it's dark out early i do need your christmas lights now if your halloween decor

1:19:00is more like autumnal and fall i will will allow it through Thanksgiving. Agreed. And I will be leaving out my pumpkin mat. Yes. If you have like cutesy leaves and pumpkins and just like autumnal, even like scarecrow. Scarecrow is a little Halloween. I'll allow it. But like spooky, scary skeletons send shivers down your spine. October 31st. Spider webs gone. Black cats. Things of that nature gone. Ghosts, ghouls, goblins gone. Graveyards. Gone. Gone. Yeah,. Ghouls. Goblins. Gone. Graveyards. Gone. Gone. Yeah. I'm over it. And I'm sat the fuck down for Christmas. I need to go. I feel like there are these like neighborhoods. Yeah. There was something like the local news that like go up. I need to go.

1:19:39Yeah. I fucking love. Like that movie. What? Danny DeVito. Did you see Danny DeVito? Like why didn't nobody tell me this was happening? Royal Albert Hall held like a symphony of the Matilda soundtrack. And Danny DeVito was sat in his costume the entire time reading the narration of the film. And then at the end, like the cast comes out. Like, I didn't really care about that because I honestly don't know these people. But like, I'm hearing the soundtrack. Is it Hans Zimmer? It's literally the most gorgeous thing. He's there dressed as the dad with his like very sort of paternal, even though he's like the villain in the movie, beautiful voice. It's like, why did nobody tell me about that? I literally would have flown to go see it.

1:20:15It looked amazing. That should go on tour. Take it on tour. They've done that for other things like Game of Thrones. Yeah. They do for a lot of Hans Zimmer ones, right? Yeah. It's pretty cool. It sounds like an actual gorgeous night at the symphony I would love to attend yeah we should attend take it on the road yeah there are some cool I've seen some like cool things it's like a candles thing with like have you seen this it's like concerts of like movie soundtracks or like on Valentine's Day they'll do like love songs and it's like orchestral concerts and it's like a bunch of candles and stuff. Pargy. I love a candle. Pargy. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Okay, let's go. Fuck me up. Let's go.

1:20:52We should go to a Christmas one. Like, sure. Yeah. Like, let's fucking go. I'm so sad for Christmas. Like. Yeah. It's literally the greatest time of year. It is. And it's, it's here. So even though it's like getting dark earlier, bummer, major bummer. It's not even the dark earlier that's really pissing me off. It's the bright earlier. Like seriously let me sleep. Let me live. And honestly this is the first year I really experienced it. You know me and my sleep schedule for the children. I'm like an actual Nazi. It's been hell. The change. The change has been hell. I actually thought. I had a strict 730 to 730 child. 730 to 620. This morning we got 640. And I'm hoping we're just going to keep.30 to 7.30 child. 7.30 to 6.20.

1:21:25This morning we got 6.40. And I'm hoping we're just going to keep extending back to 7.30. Like any tips? I mean, hell, sound off in the comments. Like I need that extra 45 minutes in the morning. I will say I think Daylight Savings being the day after Halloween was a slay. Because it encouraged all of us like, oh, don't feel bad about keeping your kids out late. Because they should be going to sleep a little later anyway to keep the next day. But it didn't work. No, but it's like at least nobody felt bad about staying out late because it felt like we had a purpose yeah but the purpose didn't work but yes but that night remember we realized we realized we're like oh well they need to sleep an hour later so we have an extra hour and it was

1:21:57just like it was great for morale even if it didn't pan out i love this spin like the beautiful because otherwise you would have been like we need to go home now and instead like you and ben were actually relaxed about it. Okay, the thing is, I'm a true bedtime sleep Nazi. And I wear that as a badge of pride. Like my whole day revolves around my nap. Like 1,000%. But when it comes to like special moments at night, I'm all about keeping Fu awake. Like seriously, we go to bed at midnight. Like when we were planning on going to Disney, but we didn't. I was like, no, I'm taking him to the fireworks. We will get home at 10 p.m. That actually I'm really like relaxed about. That's good. But yes, otherwise, like life

1:22:27revolves around the sleep. Sleep revolves around the life. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I don't mind it being sunny earlier and the sun coming up because I am trying to wake up earlier. That's a goal of mine. I was going to wait till I make it my New Year's resolution. But I was like, what if I just start on Monday? So it's going well so far. And I feel like now that we're talking about resolutions, I just want to say I don't have any. I just start on Monday? So it's going well so far. And I feel like now that we're talking about resolutions, I just want to say I don't have any. I think that's a good resolution for me is to like wake up early. I'm trying to like do it in increments.

1:22:55Waking up early like is a slide. It's a life hack. It is. I could get dinner in the crock pot. Kris Jenner literally wakes up at four or five. I know. I saw that she was saying like that that's how she was so successful. She trained herself to do it when she was younger and she says like it is the hack to her success. I know and that's why I feel like my success sort of has a limit because I'm not a morning person. It's very hard for me to wake up. My success definitely has a limit and I feel at this moment in time like I am okay with that because I need my extra 45 minutes. Yeah. Plus I don't like doing photo shoots. Another limit. Yeah. Limited limited did you see our email that we actually have another

1:23:28photo shoot coming up i'm limited i saw that we have a photo shoot coming up i don't know what it's for okay i'll tell you about it later and also just one more thing i meant to tell you this i feel like you're like because you were saying we're obviously like having a big celebrity sort of like quarter with the golden globes and like we're so viral like we're and i think you can actually like in our line of business we have to be really comfortable knowing like we go through highs and lows and we've been doing this you don't you know get where we are for 10 years without peaks and valleys and i think it's always important to understand when you're in a valley and understand when you're in a peak and understand

1:23:58that the moment won't last forever but sometimes it's hard to measure you're like am i in the flop era right now and i think based on the number of photo shoots you've, like, had recently and have coming up, that's a good marker for, unfortunately, like, where you're at success-wise. Like, right now we're obviously having a moment. Yeah, we will have had three photo shoots in Q4. But I think a lot of unsuccessful people have a lot of photo shoots. Well, that's true. But not at the level we're having these photo shoots at. I'm just saying, like, people just, like, have photo shoots. Yes. They think if they, like, if you build it, they will come. Yes. But for us, like, people who are anti-photo shoot, like, sometimes we can't get away with not having these photo shoots. I'm just saying, people just have photo shoots and they think if you build it, they will come.

1:24:25Yes, but for us, people who are anti-photo shoot, sometimes we can't get away with not having a photo shoot. So I think if you ever want to know if you're in a flop or a fly era. Oh, so we've been in a flop era for the last three years? Yeah. I have no clue. Yeah, well now you know. The more you know. Because our last photo shoot was literally three years ago for our new cover art. Well, Q4. I think it's not true no i'm telling you it's true okay like it's really like in the business that we're in it's kind of a marker of success that's so crazy i actually hard disagree because i think of like i can think of people who are always having some sort of photo shoot well you are right about the fact that like

1:25:04photo shoot culture has gotten out of control. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about real things that we have to do. Yeah, that we have to shoot. Yeah, like models have to model, you know? No, I understand. Well, that is our show. A nice long one for you. Na-loffy. Na-loff. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the best five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, you know, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast

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