Does Konstantin Kisin think the Iran war will stop Iran getting a nuclear weapon?

Konstantin Kisin said he shares the goal of a non-nuclear Iran but has heard no one explain how this war achieves it. He saw the earlier 12-day war, which targeted nuclear sites, as the percentage play. The wider war, he argued, teaches Tehran to survive and then get a bomb as fast as possible so it can never be attacked like this again. Citing Robert Pape, he said the alternative is regional balancing by strengthening Saudi Arabia and the UAE, while admitting he cannot judge whether that is right.

• Joe Rogan cited Scott Horton's view that Iran was nowhere near converting enriched uranium into a weapon.
• Kisin said his grandfather, an astrophysicist, told him the step from enriched material to a weapon is no longer hard.
• Francis Foster said a special-forces contact told him no regime change has ever been achieved by airstrikes alone.

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