What does Michael Gove think of Tucker Carlson's interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg?

Michael Gove agreed with Alastair Campbell that Jacob Rees-Mogg got the better of Tucker Carlson. Gove said Carlson started as a mainstream Bush-era Republican but now pushes the isolationism of 1930s America, with a tinge of admiration for fascism, in the line of Charles Lindbergh and Father Coughlin. He said low growth, identity politics and social media let people monetise conspiracy theories, on the left too, and that the right must police its own boundaries.

• Gove named Nick Fuentes as even worse than Carlson, and Hasan Piker as a left-wing counterpart.
• Gove defended GB News as a channel that draws a line and removes people who cross it, a view Campbell disputed.

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“But antisemitism is a light sleeper.” Michael Gove · at 43:20 — open in the transcript →

Source: our own transcription of the episode. The full conversation is on The Rest Is Politics (2026-10-07). Read the whole episode summary →

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