Does Robert Pape think people should stockpile supplies under Britain's Be Ready campaign?

Robert Pape told Steven Bartlett he is not stockpiling himself. Britain's Be Ready campaign asks households to keep three days of essentials, including three litres of water per person per day, tinned food, radios, power banks and cash. Pape takes the warning as a sign governments see real risk of cyber attacks on power and the internet, but argues three days of supplies will not stop panic because attacks can repeat. He says the better use of public effort is to press political leaders to adopt his three firebreaks.

• Pape says cash is on the list because ATMs would stop working in an outage.
• Pape points to a July power and water outage in Minnesota that he believes was most likely an Iranian cyber attack.

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“Here's the fundamental problem, Stephen. The attacks can happen again.” Robert Pape · at 1:22:19 — open in the transcript →

Source: our own transcription of the episode. The full conversation is on The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett (2026-11-05). Read the whole episode summary →

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