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Why does Si Sheppard say guns mattered less than steel and horses in the Spanish conquest?

Answered from Si Sheppard – How did a few hundred Spanish soldiers topple two empires? · Dwarkesh Podcast · 2026-10-01

Si Sheppard argues that early firearms reloaded too slowly to be decisive once native fighters got over the shock. Steel counted for more: Toledo sword blades used for thrusting, and steel helmets and armour that blunted wood, stone and obsidian weapons. He calls the horse the most vital asset, because the Americas had no horses and loose native formations had no pike drill to stop a cavalry charge, while horses also let the Spanish retreat faster than pursuers.

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“Guns in reality weren't so significant.” Si Sheppard · at 6:23 — open in the transcript →

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