Intelligence Scoop: Why Governments Want Us To Stockpile

0:00For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, first look at live show tickets, a weekly newsletter, and discounted books, join the Declassified Club at therestisclassified.com. In the last weeks, we've had dire warnings from governments and intelligence agencies across the world warning of a cyber apocalypse and a global internet meltdown. At the same time, the British government has told people to start storing 72 hours of supplies and the Pentagon in the U.S. has told its bases they need to be able to survive for 90 days without outside support. So this week we're asking, are we doomed and should we start prepping? Well, welcome to The Rest Is Classified. I'm David McCloskey.

0:55And I'm Gordon Carrera. And we thought we'd do some public service broadcasting this week on The Rest Is Classified and help everyone navigate the various freakouts that have been going on. I guess the question is, is this episode going to scare them even more? That's right. Are we doomed? Are we prepping? That's what we're going to look at. Two things, I guess, as you said, in the last few weeks have spurred some of this talk. Firstly, talk of a massive cyber meltdown, which was said to be threatening the internet. We'll get to that and also secondly the very alarming report here in the uk that some varieties of heinz and baxter's soup tins are out of stock at local supermarkets which is supposedly a result of them being bought by people

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5:21Talk to your doctor. Call 1-800-545-5979 or visit zepbounce.lily.com. Let's start with the fact that AI is once again in the news, dooming us. So we had a lot of cyber meltdown talk that really, it seemed to come almost from nowhere the other day and then it disappears. Yeah. So we had some pretty apocalyptic talk about cybersecurity last week, happens periodically. After it emerged, there were multiple vulnerabilities in this thing called PHP, a programming language, which is used by something like 70% of websites. Now, lots of websites went down. I mean, bits of the Czech government, Japan's Ministry of Finance, Netherlands' own Cyber Defence Centre. I notice even the BBC's Doctor Who and Traitors webpages

6:14went down, which is a big deal here. And the reason is that there were vulnerabilities in PHP, which could be used to take control of the site remotely and steal the data. Now, the headlines were quite dramatic. This week could go down as the worst in the history of cybersecurity was won. People were talking about us entering the dark ages and the valley of pain for cybersecurity and that this was just the beginning. I mean, I love this talk. But here's the thing. Within a day or two, guess what? It disappeared and the world didn't end. We all got distracted by more short form videos on other things that just kind of moved on. But the vulnerability or the detection of the vulnerability, I mean,

6:57it brings us back to the AI question, right? And the impact that AI is having on cybersecurity more broadly. Yeah. And so AI is having on cybersecurity more broadly. Yeah. And so AI is a factor here. And in this case, this vulnerability was found by researchers using some new AI tools, and they were quietly and secretly working with everyone to patch it and close up the vulnerability. But then news of that leaked, and you saw a sudden panic, which was now hackers know that there's this vulnerability and they could exploit it before it gets patched and so governments and companies were told by you know the cyber security agencies that they needed to take down any sites which weren't patched protectively before the hackers could get into them so when when you talked about

7:42all these sites going down, and we heard about whether it's the traitors or Japanese Ministry of Finance, they're not being taken down by the hackers. They're being taken down by the people who own it to make them more secure until and when they're ready to go back up. This is an important detail that I feel like has been buried in most of the coverage of the story, right? I mean, when you see the headlines, you think that a malicious AI has taken down websites. But in fact, it's because AI has helped cybersecurity researchers figure out this vulnerability and then alert people so that websites could be fixed, presumably. So it's actually kind of a good news story about cybersecurity. Exactly. That's what's so interesting about it and i checked in with the people at mandiant cyber security they're

8:29part of google who say there's actually they've not seen any evidence of successful wide-scale exploitation of this vulnerability by threat actors criminals or nation states so that you know the good news in a sense is no one died i mean it made for some rough days and nights if you worked in cyber security because you had to patch this stuff very quickly. And you're right. It's kind of about the battle between defense and offense in AI. And the truth is, it's a bit more complicated than us all being doomed. That's a relief. That's a relief. But the bad news is, I guess this is going to be happening a lot. I mean, that's the message, because AI is helping people find these vulnerabilities, and then they've got

9:11to be dealt with before the hackers find them and they get closed. And the estimate is about twice as many vulnerabilities are being found every month now as there were in the past. But if you talk to people at GCHQ, their cyber arm, the NCSC, their view is we may go through a disruptive phase in which these vulnerabilities are found, hackers try and exploit them. Often hackers are first adopters if they can find these first. And there's going to be a disruptive phase where all these are found and then they get patched. But then you end up, as you said, with a kind of good news story, because these vulnerabilities existed before. They get closed up and we end up with a more secure system and a more secure internet. So once you get through the valley of pain

9:55and the dark ages, we might be better off. The dark ages were terrible, I will say. It was unpleasant for the people who lived during that time. Very few enjoyed it. And the Valley of Pain sounds painful. I do think, though, there is an interesting question which gets to this point on how deep the Valley of Pain might be, or whether it's actually just a hill of pain that you roll down endlessly, is this question of, does AI broadly, does it favor the offense? And that could be malicious actors, states, criminals, whoever, or does it favor defense? And that debate is not, it's almost a kind of theoretical debate at this point, right? where there's arguments for either side. What's your take?

10:46Do you think that it's – do you think the Valley of Pain is going to be a sort of brief interlude our way to more glorious horizons? Or do you see it as something more troubling? I think it may be – it could last a couple of years of this kind of thing happening. But I was texting Kieran Martin, who used to run the UK's national cybersecurity last night. And his view is there is every chance cybersecurity gets worse for a bit, but not in a kind of mass casualty kind of way. And his concern was, you know, people are starting to freak out too much at these things. and that if these incidents keep coming, like last week's thing, which actually may have been a net good, then how will we cope when something really bad happens? Because we've been kind of

11:31inured to it by all this kind of apocalyptic talk. So I think there is something about having to get a bit of perspective about the fact it might be bumpy before we get to a more secure internet, but people aren't necessarily dying from these kind of vulnerabilities. So if the truth is that we're in for a bumpy ride in terms of cybersecurity, thanks to AI with websites going down and data being stolen, but we're not all doomed, then why should we be prepping? I guess there is something to be slightly more worried about, but it's not really AI related because a lot of the risks that we talk about in cyberspace are kind of criminals, hackers trying to steal data, shut down websites. That's obviously kind of problematic. It's problematic if your data gets stolen,

12:16if your website goes down, but it doesn't require hiding in a bunker. But the bigger problem i think is that this period of dark ages the vulnerability period is also arriving if by the way you need to you need to tell kieran when you text him that he needs to come up with a better better word for them i don't think it's him no i know i'm just saying because he's he is not he's not pessimistic he and his friend should come up with a better word than dark ages for what we're going to be experiencing. I also think it's worth noting that the presumption on the optimist side seems to be that the good cybersecurity people will find the vulnerabilities and patch them first as opposed to the threat actors

13:00finding it. Yeah, and it is a presumption. But I think the real worry is less about AI and it's more aboutption. But I think the real worry is less about AI. And it's more about the fact that we're in this era of geopolitical kind of competition, tension, friction. And so I think the real risk here is not so much AI dooming us, but foreign spies and hackers taking advantage of this and targeting our infrastructure. Yeah. So it's not AI itself. It's Russians using AI to target our infrastructure and Iranians and the Chinese. Yeah. I think that's the issue really, is that we've talked, I mean, we talked a few weeks ago, didn't we, about Russia's gray zone war, their use of sabotage in Europe to undermine support

13:44for Ukraine, things like the drones at Leipzig, arson attacks in the UK, you use of sabotage in Europe to undermine support for Ukraine, things like the drones at Leipzig, arson attacks in the UK, you kind of talk about sabotage in lots of other countries. But there's also been activity in cyberspace. And for instance, you saw this really interesting hacking operation against Poland last December, a cyber attack. And I know that this really worried some British intelligence officials, because I saw some soon afterwards and I was like, oh, this seems all kind of quiet in cyber security at the moment when it comes to foreign states. And they were like, no, Poland, this was serious. What it seemed to be was hackers, and in this case thought to be linked to Russia's security

14:22service, the FSB, targeting the Polish electricity grid. And they came very close to causing a blackout. Now that could have cut heating to half a million people in winter if it had worked. And they have done similar things in Ukraine. But I think this was the first time the Western intelligence agencies had seen the Russians target a NATO's country electricity grid to take it down. And it's part of, if you like, that wider Russian strategy of targeting the population to kind of weaken them and make them think, you know, we've got to get out of this conflict, we've got to stop backing Ukraine. So I think that is where cyber gets interesting when it comes to prepping. And there's been other examples

15:05actually in the US, including David, I think in your home state, isn't that right? Of Minnesota. That's right. Minnesota, the crucible of the cyber apocalypse, Gordon. The land of 10,000 lakes. This is crazy because hackers in Minnesota targeted more than 30 municipal water utilities all across the state. And these are places that are probably not operating with the highest end cybersecurity. The hackers get in, they lock the local utility operators out of their own systems, and then try to interfere remotely with the pumps and valves. So it's kind of a low rent version of Stuxnet, which we talked about a while back on the pod, this joint US-Israeli operation to mess with the centrifuge cascades at Natanz in Iran. And I think this is what's so fascinating is it takes it from,

15:58whether it's the Poland example or Minnesota, it takes it from the sort of digital world, and then we're now in the physical world where actual infrastructure is being messed with i mean in minnesota it was so bad that the maple plain city council maple plain uh a lovely place in the western suburbs of minneapolis st paul filled with maple trees gordon this time of year probably probably lovely autumn colors. They convene an emergency meeting, this happened in the summer, by the way, at 4pm on July 27th in a closed session, a closed session, Gordon, of the Maple Plain City Council to receive a security briefing. Who from? I don't know. I think the NSA. Do you think the director of NSA or FBI flew in?

16:43It's a good question. If any listeners have access to the Maple Plains City Council, we would like to know. Following consultation with city staff and emergency management personnel, Mayor Julie Moskowski declared a local state of emergency. I mean, so this is, it's crazy because you would think, okay, so who would be doing this? Who is going after Minnesota's water transmission infrastructure? The Iranians. I mean, it's just, and it's the Iranians. It's wild. It's absolutely mad. Yeah. It's so interesting, isn't it? That this is where like kind of big geopolitical conflicts meet you know local water utilities in maple plain city and i mean they also target the iranians over the summer a british power plant a small one which reportedly was shut down for something like four days those

17:39were the reports but the government has not said much about it they've been quite secretive about it they're not they've said no one lost power. But all of this kind of Iranian activity over the summer looks to be retaliation for those US strikes in Iran and also the UK offering its bases to the Americans eventually. Just to go back to the Naples plain example for a moment, are the Iranians specifically going after Minnesotan water utilities because they found some kind of vulnerability in the software shared software that might have been used between them is it like because i wouldn't imagine the iranians are like where do we target and you know let's do minnesota yeah a member of the irgc stabs a knife into a map of the united states at minneapolis st paul

18:24right it's not It's not where you would go. Although you never know. It could be that IRGC commander had a really bad summer holiday in Minneapolis. He's like, I'm going to take them out. I think it was a broader campaign than that. And I think they're looking for targets of opportunity. But it's going to be smaller places which have not got high-end cybersecurity, which get hit. And I think this is where I think it gets interesting and connects with prepping. Because suddenly you can see that actually, which have not got high-end cybersecurity, which get hit. And I think this is where I think it gets interesting and connects with prepping, because suddenly you can see that actually, if Iranian hackers, Russian hackers, Russian spies, Iranian spies are basically targeting

18:57infrastructure in our countries, and they are targeting it to be able to see if they can take it down. And in which case, there's a problem if you're in these communities. I mean, that's why I think you can start to see why there might be a need to prepare, to think about what happens if the water or the power goes down. Yeah. Because I also think in the Bepo Plain example, which obviously it didn't end up working, you could imagine a case where, whether it's the Iranians, Chinese, Russians, whomever, get into a system like that and are successful for a long period of time at keeping the operators out. Depending on how you could kind of manually override the system, you're talking about a period where is Maple Plain drying up for three or four

19:44days when you try to resolve this? Is there no water in the city? I mean, you start to think psychologically about what happens. And I guess that could explain a bit of why we're getting the prepping guidance. So maybe there we take a break. And when we come back, we'll tell you why we should all be prepping and what both Gordon and I are keeping in our basements. We'll see you after the break. Ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease symptoms, don't pause for the moments that matter. That's why understanding your treatment options matters. Discover what's possible with Trimphia. Guselcomab. Trimphia is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn's disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis.

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22:17deals with the new kind of challenges of AI. But maybe we should start prepping. And I think this gets us to what we were talking about before the break. We have vulnerable electricity grids, water transmission systems, due risks. I think we'll come to the American view shortly, but the UK, Gordon, has just put out new guidance, which has been mocked in some quarters, about how you should get yourself ready for this. There is a British tradition of mocking things and talking about soup tins running out. But actually, I think it was a kind of good thing to do, I'm going to be honest. If you look at the UK advice, it's not primarily around AI dooming us or even just cyber hacking, but a kind of mix

22:59of threats. And I think that's one of the things to say. So extreme weather and climate change, flooding or drought, we've seen more of that, Also cyber attacks. And of course, some of this could be hostile state activity, including Russia. I mean, all the way up to war. And people are talking about war in the way they haven't in the past here in Britain. a few weeks ago, which said that the UK Risk Register had been updated, warning that the chance of a catastrophic loss of water supply for a million people had gone up dramatically. And it was interesting because the reason for that was a combination of climate change, putting strains on the system, underinvestment in the infrastructure, and then the potential

23:41for Russia or another state, say Iran, to exploit those problems with cyber attacks. So I thought that was really interesting, the idea that it's the mix of things. So you can have climate change straining a system and not enough money being put into the system, and then a hostile state kind of can tip it over the edge with a cyber attack. I think that is quite a good example of why we're in a new world of risks, where people are thinking about the need to prepare for it in a way they didn't in the past. That's the reason for the UK's be ready checklist or guidance that they put out. You've gone deep into this, haven't you, Gordon, to get yourself ready for the apocalypse. I've been watching lots of videos,

24:22UK Urban Prepper and others to kind of learn what to do. Three litres per person per day for drinking, more for cooking and washing, food with a long shelf life, and FM radio. So this is old school because there will be no podcasts, David, when the apocalypse comes because we're all digital. It's a slight worry because I don't know how people are going to, we're going to get our public service information. Radio. We should have a radio station. We'll have a call-in talk show during the apocalypse where people can ask us questions. Yeah. As I was listening to these serious preppers, I've been spending, I've been going down the rabbit hole and their view is the only problem with the UK advice

25:01is that it's saying you need this for three days when actually they're like, if it really goes wrong, you probably need more time, a few weeks worth of stuff. But the result is even with that advice, baked beans, bottled waters, and Heinz and Baxter's, which are varieties of soup, have been running low, David. I looked at the US, like the FEMA guidance, our Federal Emergency Management Agency. And they have very similar guidance in terms of the supplies, food, gear that you need to the UK. But it's been on the books for a while, years. And the minimum that they recommend stockpiling for is three days. And the FEMA guidance is more like, this should be two weeks. Three days is the absolute bare minimum. Because you do think, I mean, if there actually is a real problem

25:53and it goes longer than three days, I mean, it doesn't seem nearly long enough for any of these risks you've just described. Yeah. I mean, it feels like that's what it would take for a kind of a normal power outage or a flood or something like that to be dealt with. But I think if it's something really more serious, then yeah, it doesn't quite feel like enough. I mean, it's interesting though, because there's a lot more talk about it now than there used to be. So, I mean, maybe here in Europe, I mean, I guess in the US there's always been prepping. I mean, there's always been that kind of world. And I think maybe it's true that, you know, you've got more kind of, you get tornadoes and floods and

26:34hurricanes and things like that in the US as well, more extreme weather events, which make people prepare for these things, don't they? I mean, there's a bit more culture of it generally, as well as the kind of doomsday, the world's ending stuff. Is that less common in the UK than it is here? Maybe it is. Increasingly less. It's not at all kind of driven by the threat of a hostile state actor wrecking the Texas power grid or something like that or taking it offline for a few weeks. It is. It's hurricanes. It's floods. It's like blizzards in places like Texas that don't have power grids that are really well winterized, right? And that can wreak havoc on the grid here. So it's very much not... I think maybe some of the difference between the two is the US has had,

27:32I think, this guidance formally for a bit longer, and it's very much not about the threat of hybrid war with the Russians. But it's interesting, I saw the US military is getting slightly into this prepping for its overseas bases and thinking about that a bit more. The Pentagon is preparing US military bases to be able to keep operating for at least 90 days without any kind of outside support as they prepare for the possibility of a major war that could cripple power grids or disrupt supply chains, critical infrastructure. And it's part of something called FORTRESS, which is a great name, all caps, which is a broader military initiative that is aimed at ensuring that American military forces can keep fighting even if the civilian systems that they depend on are disrupted. And under

28:27Fortress, every military installation in the continental US would be expected to sustain essential operations on its own independently for at least 90 days. And that's things like electricity, water, fuel, telecommunications. I mean, so that feels like a big challenge to overcome. I don't know where most bases are right now on this. I'd imagine there's a pretty wide range depending on how critical they are. But for every military installation in the continental US to have essentially a 90-day reservoir of independence to be able to operate. It's a pretty big deal. Yeah, it's quite a bit cool. Yeah. I mean, it is interesting because I think one of the lessons the military is clearly learning, which is getting transferred

29:13into civilian life, is that idea of how long can you last without access, for instance, to the internet and when some of the normal systems go down, how much resilience have you got? And earlier in the year, I was at this military exercise in Estonia near the Russian border. And I went into one of these French, called a Jaguar, armed reconnaissance vehicle. And it was fascinating because it was a kind of really modern, high-tech, looks like a tank. I know it's not technically a tank, but full of high- you know, cameras, sensors everywhere. But the guy who was showing me around it said, we have it worked out how we can switch to manual if we get jammed. And if basically the internet, if all the sensors go down, if there's electronic warfare against us, we can still run

30:01this old school manually. And he even showed me there was like a red ripcord inside the vehicle. And he was like, that can fire the gun out the front if we need to. And I think, you know, the point is about that and the bases is the military is having to think, you know, what do we do in the event of cyber attacks, electronic warfare, taking systems down, can we still do what we need to do? How much of the US basing resilience under Fortress do you think connects back to the way that our bases have been hammered during the war in Iran, in the Middle East? I guess the bigger question is, where is this Fortress guidance coming from? Why does it exist now? I think it probably is about if there was a,

30:46let's say there was a major conflict with China. China's had this vault typhoon and salt typhoon, and particularly the vault typhoon, which is like getting into bases and being able to shut down the logistics. So I think the fear is if you got into a major conflict, China or another adversary, particularly China, I think, could try and shut down the logistics chains, the telecoms, the infrastructure around the US military to stop it moving and responding, in which case you kind of want to be able to act independently and still do stuff. I wonder if that's kind of part of it. But it is the new world. When you're in an increasingly digitally interdependent world, that becomes the target and that becomes your vulnerability and your risk. So I think in a way, what we're seeing

31:30is something that the military is thinking about and intelligence agencies thinking about also now being applied to the civilian world in us having to think about, could we operate a bit like a base without access to the outside world and for how long? So I think it's easy to mock, but I think it is a kind of serious question. I mean, we might not need 90 days, but we might need a few days and to be able to think about it. What do you have in your basement, Gordon, to prepare yourself? I have a few bottles of wine, some quite nice, a couple of nice bottles of french dessert wine um because i think they're my so it'll be a quite a merry quite a merry uh you know kind of apocalypse for me that'll be a good that'll

32:14be a good three or four hours until you get really thirsty after you drink two bottles of french dessert wine i'm gonna get more though sorry i should say that because having taken the advice seriously um i'm i am now gonna get some water and some some beans if i can find them in the store bunch of beans you're gonna french dessert wine and and a bunch of beans a bunch of beans yeah no one's gonna come within within 20 yards of that of that basement what's in the mccloskey cellar come on texas has gone through such extreme weather over the past few years. Some blizzards and ice storms in the winter, and then really, really hot summers that drain the power grid. So we've had issues with the electricity grid in our neighborhood and around the city.

33:01So we have a couple of weeks of and food that that we've got and we have we've been considering getting a generator uh that would allow us not to run not to keep the whole house going but to keep you know refrigerators or fans or space heaters that kind of thing going if we lost power we have a lot of friends who have purchased generators. Really? Wow. Yeah. But it's all- That's really interesting. It's not about the Russians here. It's more about- The weather. The weather. Exactly. I think here in Europe, it's interesting because different countries have different reactions to it because I was at the Finnish embassy recently and the ambassador there was talking about how much resilience is integrated into daily life and they spend lots of time.

33:49I mean, they've got the border with Russia, got this long history of tension and it's just part of their daily life is to think, well, what happens to food supply chains if they go down? How do we survive that disruption? But I did note that they have enough bunkers in Finland and shelters for almost all of the population, which we definitely don't have. So my cellar is not as good as a Finnish bunker. I don't know. Have you got a bunker or have you just got a cellar? I mean, the water table here is so high that most people actually don't have cellars, which is unfortunate. No bunkers. But there's a bunker under, massive bunkers under Lapland in Finland, right? Yeah. Yeah. They've got these historic ones,

34:31which are huge and which loads of people can go in. And I was reading, they kind of, they turn them into, some of them have sports pitches, gyms, children's playgrounds, which are used during normal times. And then they can be converted into, you know, civilian defense bunkers in time of times of emergency. So I guess that's what we do. Goldhanger obviously has a major bunker underneath its office, which is where I could have fleed to with, with all the other Goldhanger hosts and staff. Goldhanger towers is it's, it's an 80 story building that is, that goes as deep into the ground as it does into the sky. That's right. So anyway, I think that's probably a good place to finish. Hopefully we've not freaked everyone out.

35:21Although maybe there'll be another run on beans and soup at the local supermarkets. But hopefully we've done our public service, David. That's right. I feel like we have done our public service, David. That's right. I feel like we have done our public service. And I think this is the right place to end it. Just a reminder, we've got a series starting on Monday on Watergate, the CIA's role in Watergate, which is a great story of breaking and entering and burglary. We're going to have a great bonus series attached to that, all about the life and times of E. Howard Hunt, one of the most fascinating CIA officers of the 20th century. We'll be interviewing Anthony Scaramucci, the mooch, who's got some views on who really

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