What did Brian Attwell, CTO of Atoms, learn from working at Google?

Brian Attwell said the main thing Google gave him was a deep-seated skepticism about how well tech companies are run. In his first week he saw a teammate doing no work; his manager and engineering director both excused it because the man was well liked. After Attwell kept complaining, the teammate was moved to a team building demos for the gift shop rather than being fired or confronted.

• Attwell refers to the teammate only by the made-up name Frank.
• He said the right response was either firing him or a serious conversation asking him to start working again.

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“I got like a real deep-seated skepticism for how well tech companies are run.” Brian Attwell · at 1:04 — open in the transcript →

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