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1:23America's number one choice for banking. Head to Chime.com slash red-handed. That's Chime.com slash red-handed. Sign up now. It only takes a few minutes. Chime is a fintech, not a bank. Banking services and ChimeCard provided by Chime's bank partners. Qualifying direct deposits required. Terms and limits apply. Go to Chime.com slash disclosures for details. Hello. Hello. And welcome to another episode of Shorthand. But I pumped it is of course a long-running known piece of knowledge on this uh show that i love any sort of terrible horror film i refuse to watch any good films i watch all the terrible ones i'm gonna say this one is a terrible one purely because i know people are gonna tell me it is though i disagree silent hill have you seen yeah of course it's a great film i think it's
2:25great film and obviously ghost town abandoned town mother gets you know pushed into this town to look for her missing daughter centralia the town the real life ghost town we're going to be talking about today was in fact the inspiration for the town in Silent Hill. The town of Silent Hill. Well, sign me up. Let's go. All in. So on the 27th of May, 1962, the people of Centralia, Pennsylvania, were getting ready for their Memorial Day celebrations. The town had been a bustling mining centre for more than a hundred years. It was a tight-knit community of thousands, with shops, schools, theatres and bars. But now, it stands silent. Maybe on a hill, but actually not. But it is definitely, totally abandoned.
3:17Most of the buildings of Centralia have been demolished, and every one is gone. Why? Well, it's because a fire has been raging under the ground of Centralia for more than 60 years. When the ocean of coal under Centralia caught alight, it started a fire that couldn't be tamed. Sinkholes opened up, spewing smoke and toxic gas. Deep cracks burst through the main road and smoke billowed out of them People were knocked out in their homes by toxic gas And in the town cemeteries, the flames even reached up from below And swallowed up the dead themselves Ooh I mean, victimless crime It really does look like if you google Centralia and have a little look at the pictures it really does look like some sort of
4:10modern day hellscape situation because there's just like smoke pouring out of cracks in the ground and like parts where you can see flames yeah it's just a weird place but there's also a picture that somebody's uploaded of what they've called a penis trail where somebody has just gone and drawn a bunch of's uploaded of what they've called a penis trail, where somebody has just gone and drawn a bunch of penises on the ground and then written penis trail on it. So I hope it was worth all of the potentially toxic fumes it took to make that picture. Did you know that in Pompeii, it had the only brothel that we are aware of at all in ancient Rome? Well, there you go. As like a structure. Sure. Because, I mean, prostitution, I'm sure, everywhere.
4:56But it was a specific building that was just brothel. And they think it was actually like a really disastrous economic experiment because they were like oh we have to run this brothel like it has overheads and costs and stuff and like the sex workers are everywhere else and they're cheaper that's why it's the only one and I learned that on uh betwixt the sheets which is Kate Lister's history show love Love it. I think she's a doctor of, I don't know, sexy history or whatever. But she's Dan Snow's protégé. I see. Anyway, I'm trying so hard to link Pompeii and Inferno to lead me on into the next bit, and I can't do it. You can do it. I don't know if I can. Well, I'm going to try. Unlike the disaster at Pompeii, which happened thousands of years ago,
5:50the inferno raging under Centralia in Pennsylvania is nowhere near over. And this is the shorthand about it. Brilliant. Well done. Centralia is nestled among the rolling green hills of eastern Pennsylvania. With dense forests and the rugged Appalachian Mountains nearby, Centralia is nestled among the rolling green hills of eastern Pennsylvania. With dense forests and the rugged Appalachian Mountains nearby, it's a picture-perfect small-town setting. But it wasn't the natural beauty that first led settlers to set up there. It was what lay under the ground. Vast deposits of anthracite coal. So coal was first discovered in the area in the early 19th century. The huge expanse of black gold they discovered underground became known as the Mammoth Vein,
6:38and it promised practically limitless wealth to whoever could tap it first. In 1842, the land was bought by the Locust Mountain Coal and Iron Company. And soon, mining engineer Alexander McRae moved his family there and started drawing up plans for a town. Mining began in the 1850s, and 16 years later, it was incorporated as a town. Practically all of the town's men spent most of their daylight hours deep in the damp, dark pits underground. Above ground at least, life was mostly good in Centralia. Neighbours watched out for each other and the coal money was still a-flowing. Soon enough there were seven churches, five hotels, twenty-seven saloons, two theatres, a bank, a post office and 14 grocery stores.
7:28And more than 2,700 people called Centralia home. It's a terrible name. It is. I hate it. I don't know why. I just, I would even prefer like New Bournemouth, do you know what I mean? Yeah, it sounds more of a fake name than the fake town it inspired, Silent Hill. Yeah, exactly. more of a fake name than the fake town it inspired silent hill yeah exactly like if i came across centralia in some sort of media concept i'd be like try harder yeah it really does sound like the fake town in some sort of township game yes which may not be mildly playing are you still doing that no i gave up on farmville a long time ago but I have been playing a lot of like words with friends word games Sudoku and then every now and then it will interrupt my game
8:11and this is how they get you the marketing then it lets you play like two minutes of Township and I'm like that was fun my business my business that was fun so I started Township but the one that I cannot stand is Whiteout. Have you seen it? No, I don't know what that is. It will interrupt your Sudoku game with like 60 seconds of Whiteout. And I was like, oh, okay, a new one, kind of like Township. Let's play. It's you bludgeoning polar bears. Oh, my God. And then selling their steaks. I was like, this is not one that I really want to play. So anyway. Oh, no. Unless they want to sponsor us, in which case, sponsored by Whiteout. Do you know polar bears are like 12 foot tall? Yeah. They're fucking huge. Kill ya.
8:49Kill ya. I was watching Four in the Bed yesterday and it's like Come Dine With Me but for B&B owners and they like one of the guys takes the group to a zoo and they've got polar bears and it was weird because they've got polar bears in like a grassy enclosure. I was like I don't like seeing polar bears on grass. This feels weird. No. And they've got polar bears. And it was just weird because they've got polar bears in like a grassy enclosure. I was like, I don't like seeing polar bears on grass. Like this feels weird. And they were like, we feed our lions. We feed our tigers. We go into those enclosures. The polar bear enclosure is the only one we do not go into. We just throw the food over the fence.
9:18And I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, send them back to the North Pole. Let them be free. Just leave them alone. That's all melting, isn't it? And they're all starving to death up there so maybe not there's also that but anyway centralia sticking with the town at the core of our shorthand today it was doing well it even weathered the storm of the great depression which was a huge blow to the coal industry and saw five of the town's mines close. Sidebar, these closures didn't stop bootleg miners from scurrying down and extracting coal from the pillars, however. Since those pillars had been left to keep the tunnel's roofs up, this pilfering led to all sorts of collapses, and this made the
9:59tunnel network harder to navigate. And just keep that knowledge in your little brain pocket for later. And just before we get to the infamous day in question, it's important to quickly understand just what made people so darn hungry for coal. So, with your permission, picture this, an area that's full of plants and trees with ground that's totally waterlogged. When the plants die, they usually sink into the soil and microorganisms get to work breaking down all that dead matter and converting it into energy. And then those organisms go elsewhere to die, etc. It goes on the circle of life and it moves us all. But microorganisms canna swim. And here in our marshy little copse, microorganisms just can't survive underwater.
10:53So all of the dead plants just sit there, unbroken down, and start to pile up. And eventually there's so many dead plants that it fills up the water and eventually the soil comes in to cover all of it up. And then other vegetation grows on top. And the wet plants get buried deep underground. And that pressure builds and builds under the weight of all of this new stuff on top. And all that dead plant energy is compressed into hard, carbon-rich black rock. And that is what coal is. And because it's just densely packed old plants coal burns super easily and all that stored up energy means it releases massive amounts of heat which makes it perfect to heat homes or even run large-scale electrical plants the u.s has a lot of it. 16 states still mine coal today.
11:47That's mad. They've just got so much. This is why they're like, Russia, whatever, man. We've got our own oil, gas and coal. We're fine. They're fine. We're fucked. Yes. Everyone talks about how challenging it is to raise kids. But what about protecting them? Outlet covers, kitchen cabinet locks, baby gates, where do you even start? Well, protecting your home and auto is a great place to start. Progressive offers customised coverage options so you can be sure that you have the right coverage for you and your loved ones. They're basically the outlet covers, kitchen cabinet locks and baby gates of insurance. Don't wait. Get your quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company, affiliates and other insurers, not available in all states.
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15:13Head to Chime.com slash red-handed. That's Chime.com slash red-handed. Sign up now. It only takes a few minutes. Chime is a fintech, not a bank. Banking services and ChimeCard provided by Chime's bank partners. Qualifying direct deposits required. Terms and limits apply. Go to Chime.com slash disclosures for details. Pennsylvania alone provides 5% of the U.S.'s coal. And that is because they have a lot of it, but also because the coal Pennsylvania has is good shit. Pennsylvania has a lot of anthracite, which is the hardest form of coal. Yes, it's shiny jet black. It is absolutely bursting at the seams with carbon. That means that it burns slower for longer and it gets much, much hotter. And that, dear friends, is what is under the ground at Centralia.
16:09And there's miles and miles and miles of it. So, now we know all of that, let's return to the day before Memorial Day in 1962. By this point, the people of Centralia have been excavating for over a hundred years. That day, the townsfolk were all very excited, getting ready for their Memorial Day celebrations. Is Memorial Day war? Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Maybe it's like our, I don't know. I just think of war memorial. Yeah. So maybe it's that. Must be. Is it like the people who died in the two wars, blah, blah, blah? Yeah. The big wars. That's what I... The biggies. That's what I have decided. In the weeks leading up to the festivities, the council had promised the people of Centralia that they would clean up the streets.
16:57So they sent tons of rubbish to the town's dumps. Many of those dumps were unregulated, just old abandoned mine pits that people were just throwing all sorts of shit into. The council, by law, was required to put a layer of fire-resistant clay between the layers of landfill, but they were running behind and they didn't. Anytime the smell of these massive landfills or the rat problem got too bad, then the council asked the fire service to help them get rid of all of the rubbish. And it seems obvious, but incredibly stupid. The fire service set all of the rubbish on fire. And just in case anybody needs telling, burning rubbish in the US is illegal. But it is pretty damn effective. It's a very quick way to deal with quite a large problem.
17:53Burning things is, yeah, whether it's evidence, trash. Tennis balls. If you are an 11-year-old me, it is very, very effective in terms of getting rid of things and also just having, you know, a fun, wholesome Saturday afternoon out with your friends. But on this particular Sunday, in this particular rubbish heap, there was one small but fairly predictable problem. All the rubbish was piled over an open coal seam. And although the mine had been abandoned, it was still connected to the entire mammoth vein that we mentioned earlier. Now, it's probably important to say at this point that this is only one theory as to how the fire started. Another theory says that the previous day, a trash hauler dumped hot ash or coal from coal burners
18:46into the open trash pit and yet another theory says that this fire under centralia had actually been burning since 1932 and a fire at the nearby bast colliery which is much smaller had somehow spread to the pits under Centralia. But whatever started it, the people of Centralia had been living for a century on top of an ocean of fuel. And unbeknownst to them, it had just been lit. The fire spread through the mine tunnels snaking under Centralia's streets. Carbon monoxide levels soared through the mines. And they were all closed immediately. All of the budgies spontaneously died at the same instant. Attempts began to put out the fire pretty quickly. Firefighters pumped water onto underground flames and even tried to smother
19:38the blaze with clay, but fire kept popping back up. Sinkholes would rip through the roads and billow thick smoke through the town. And because there were so many abandoned tunnels, and more than that, so many collapsed abandoned tunnels, navigating it all was almost impossible. And trying to find out which tunnels stoked the fire, and then closing them off, was a fool's errand. So the fire was just left to burn. Over the next few years, obviously, it got worse. The town's residents, yes, believe it or not, most were still there by this point, started reporting health problems. Some reported losing consciousness while sitting in their homes. I'd say that's more than a health problem i'd say you're in some pretty serious trouble though they were losing consciousness
20:31because like we said carbon monoxide levels and also sulfur dioxide hydrogen sulfide and methane was seeping through the floorboards of their home one mother mother moved to Seattle after a doctor told her that gases in her house were aggravating her son's kidney disease. Worse still, she had lost another son to the same kidney disease a few years previously. So why on earth did anybody stay? Well, it wasn't just that these folks bloody loved their town. Some homeowners were told that the fire was going the other way and would be gone soon and others were convinced that it was all a plot by big coal to get them to sell off all their valuable land which i can believe oh easily it's like that bit in chernobyl where there's that
21:17little old lady and they're like you have to leave and she was like no yeah like i've been here the whole time and now you're telling me to leave or something I can't even fucking see absolutely and you know it's also like even if they didn't believe in that sort of conspiracy or anything it's like I'm sure a lot of them weren't just like oh yeah let me sell this house now that's on condemned land in a town that is going to become a ghost town yeah and then just goes you know start my new life somewhere else in the u.s like i'm guessing for a lot of people in that town who the majority of them are coal miners they're like oh we're ruined we're financially ruined and if we leave they're gonna take it all yeah
21:55but whatever people were told whatever they thought whatever they discussed amongst themselves the proof of what was really going on only got more obvious. Rats were everywhere, driven from their burrows by the heat. In some spots, the ground itself reached more than 450 degrees Celsius. Fuck me, that's 900 Fahrenheit. Homes started to lean and sinkholes kept bursting through the centre of town. Cracks opened straight down into cavernous, flaming mining tunnels, and smoke filled the streets. After the fire approached a six-inch natural gas pipeline under the road, buses were placed on permanent call in case there was a need for an evacuation. I'd argue, do it now. Why are they still there? We're just going to
22:52wait for the gas line to blow up and then everyone can leave. In 1981, an article in People magazine read the following. Even the dead cannot rest in peace. Greys in the town's two cemeteries are believed to have dropped into the abyss of fire that rages below them. And then, one day, February the same year, 12-year-old Todd Domboski was playing in his grandma's garden when the ground gave way beneath him. Todd grabbed onto some nearby tree roots as lethal levels of CO2 and hot plumes of steam billowed out of the ground. He was descending into a flaming open pit. Luckily, his cousin found him and pulled him to safety, and he did narrowly escape with his life, but I don't think you would ever get over that.
23:46No. I wonder if he'd done something real bad. Like, not actually bad, but like what a child would think was bad. Sure, sure, sure. And he's like, oh no, this is my penance. Yeah, absolutely. It's like some left behind shirt. Yeah. Anyway, after Todd fell through the earth, efforts to tackle the fire, once and for all, ramped up a bit. Clay was put over the surface to prevent oxygen reaching the fire, and firefighters pumped in water, rocks, and even a slurry of what's known as fly ash, which is ash from coal-burning fire plants. But it was still burning. By this point, the fire had already been burning for 20 years. So yes, as we've sort of casually walked you through these situations, told you a couple of stories,
24:38please remember the timeline. This has now been going on for two decades. And just to, you know, put into perspective what they're trying to do, obviously when they're trying to dump a bunch of ash and water and rocks and clay, they're trying to suffocate the fire because our air is typically 21% oxygen. But coal can burn in an atmosphere that's just 1% or 2% oxygen. So despite their best attempts, the likelihood of choking it out because it's a coal fire was slim. Plus, remember, it's not called the Mammoth Vein for nothing. There were miles and miles and miles of tunnels. Now, the council had already spent millions of dollars on endless attempts to contain this fire. And in 1983, they gave up trying to
25:27contain it for good and simply surrendered the town to the fire. Everyone talks about how challenging it is to raise kids. But what about protecting them? Outlet covers, kitchen cabinet locks, baby gates, where do you even start? Well, protecting your home and auto is a great place to start. Progressive offers customised coverage options so you can be sure that you have the right coverage for you and your loved ones. They're basically the outlet covers kitchen cabinet locks and baby gates of insurance. Don't wait. Get your quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company. Affiliates and other insurers. Not available in all states. Who here picked a bank at 16? Probably because it was the one that their parents used and then never looked back.
26:14I know I did. I didn't really think about what I wanted my bank to do for me. Or what they could offer me that other banks couldn't. That's where Chime comes in. Chime is changing the way that people think about banking. Chime offers the most rewarding fee-free banking, all with no overdraft fees, no monthly fees, no minimum balance fees. You get 5% cash back on Chime card in a category of your choice, like gas or groceries, all while building credit through regular everyday spending, with no credit check. You can also grow your money faster with a savings rate that's nine times the national average. And if you're ever in a pinch, Spot Me lets you overdraft up to $200 fee-free. Join the millions who are already banking fee-free with America's number one choice for banking.
27:00Head to Chime.com slash RedHanded. That's Chime.com slash RedHanded. Sign up now. It only takes a few minutes. Chime is a fintech, not a bank. Banking services and ChimeCard provided by Chime's bank partners. Qualifying direct deposits required. Terms and limits apply. Go to Chime.com slash disclosures for details. Uncharacteristically, US Congress decided to buy the residents out. And they allocated $42 million to buy every building in Centralia and knock it down. Not everyone took them up on it. And if you've ever watched a horror film about a cursed town like Silent Hill, where kids keep dying and wondered why the townsfolk don't just move to another village, maybe go down to Centralia and ask them yourselves.
27:47Because somehow, even with toxic gases, black smoke, and literal plumes of fire bursting through the ground at any moment, there were still people in the 80s who did not want to leave. Eventually, in the 90s, the section of Route 61 that went through the town was permanently closed, and traffic was diverted hundreds of yards to the east. That closed highway, full of huge smoking cracks, became a weird tourist attraction. Of course it did. And if you do a little Google, it's the first thing you'll see. The cracked road surface is now covered in colourful graffiti. And apparently there was once a hot dog stand to service the weird tourists. And a section of it was definitely the penis trail. Now somehow by 1992, there were still people living in Centralia.
28:41So Pennsylvania moved to condemn all of the town's remaining buildings in 2002 just 20 people remained and the zip code was eliminated they're really trying their best to make these people not exist anymore but they weren't going to go down without a fight the holdouts obtained a court order to keep their houses but they were forbidden from passing down the property or selling it. Do you need to forbid that? Who's going to want it? I mean, nobody because, and this sounds awful of me, but their kids are all going to die. So, like, no one's going to be left to pass it on, Jesus Christ. Now, eventually, the last operating store, a motorcycle shop called Speed Spot, closed for good. In 2016, 10 people still lived in Centralia. And by 2020, there were just five. And that is the last figure
29:34that we have. 1,100 houses have been demolished. And today, Centralia is a ghost town. And in 2021, in full-blown pandemic times, the owner of the infamous Graffiti Highway got sick of people congregating on it. So, it was covered in dirt. And now it's covered in plants and trees. Through the town, you can see the occasional boarded-up house or business and lots of abandoned cars. But there is one building that still contains some life and this is what makes it seem extra silent tilly because of centralia's seven churches just one is still standing on a hillside overlooking the city sits the assumption of the blessed virgin mary it's a bright white ukrainian catholic church that was built in 1911 On a hillside overlooking the city sits the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
30:29It's a bright white Ukrainian Catholic church that was built in 1911. And it's come pretty close to being demolished as well. According to its priest, Father Michael Husko, the church was on its last breath. But just in the nick of time, the Archbishop ordered a survey of the ground below the church. And when they drilled, the church really was built on St. Peter. Solid rock under there. And so, Father Husker said that it was a biblical discovery. The church was spared and people from surrounding towns still go to receive communion there today it is i would really suggest that people give this a little google it is look at that fuck me absolutely not it's just like anna said this giant white church just standing in the middle of what has obviously become just
31:20a forest because like i said they covered a lot of the roads up with dirt they've tried to pour dirt over the fire to stop it and plants have grown over it but then still the road leading to the town is still just smoking and flaming and there's just this shit you can also get a picture of this church on a tote bag or a cushion or a notebook so there you go if you want a bag fucking hell if you want a picture of the church on a bag, they do merch. So that's fun. You would, though, wouldn't you? But who are the proceeds going to? The Catholic Church. Yes, Father Michael Hosko. Actually, the very head of the Ukrainian Catholic Church himself, Archbishop Sherslav Chebchuk, visited the Centralia Church, his very own self, when he did a tour of the US you would have to yeah you can't leave it out and he was so impressed
32:13by the story of the rock and the saviour of the building that he's actually made the church a pilgrimage site and hundreds pilgrim there every year. It's a great story. If it wasn't for like, firstly, like no wonder the last shop was a bike shop because you can't drive a car to there. So you're going to have to get on some sort of bike to even get through. I know usually when we discuss these things, we're like, oh, let's go. I don't want to. No, I'm fine. No, I can barely breathe. And it's just because of the hay fever. I really don't need to go stand in a bunch of toxic fumes. So yes, the church. If you have watched Silent Hill, you'll remember that the church in the movie and the video game,
32:53because I know it was a video game first, the church is a sanctuary. The one place that evil can't enter. And while Father Husko doesn't seem like the biggest gamer around, he does believe that the church was saved for a reason. He says, I think its history is unfolding before our eyes. The final chapter hasn't been written yet. When I look back, I see the hand of God in all these things. I can't help but believe that something truly spectacular is going to happen here. Truly spectacular. But it might be some time before we find out what that is because some estimates believe that there is enough coal under centralia to burn for hundreds of years my god what a waste of coal as well why can't you know that big fiery hole in the ground in
33:38turkmenistan uh-huh turkistan you know what i mean some in one of the stars that's just like open why can't they open it? I don't know. Will that make it worse? Maybe. I guess more oxygen. Who knows? We'll leave them to it. I don't think that one's coal either. I think it's gas. Yeah, I think it's gas because there's something about it that like the colour of the flames is like blue. I know that's sulphur, but I think it's also, I think it's gas. And you see the video footage of the people putting on like silver spacesuits and like being descended into it again not something i really desperately want to do but if you really desperately want to go check out the ghost town of centralia i don't know if it's advisable for us to be sending people there but you can go there because people
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