Answered from This 3-hour Elizabeth Holmes doc broke our brains · My First Million · 2026-10-20
Sam Parr describes Roy Cohn as a combative New York lawyer of the 1970s and 1980s who mentored a young Donald Trump. He lists rules a Cohn biographer noted: never apologise or admit wrongdoing, always counterattack harder, use the legal system as a weapon and build a fortress of loyalty. Shaan Puri replies that Holmes's style is different: she is disarming, not a charmer.
“never apologize or admit wrongdoing ever.” Sam Parr · at 19:49 — open in the transcript →
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