Answered from Noam Brown – Agent swarms, alignment, & recursive self-improvement · Dwarkesh Podcast · 2026-09-17
Noam Brown says a reasoning model that writes out its thinking in plain language is a rare gift for safety, and punishing it for bad thoughts teaches it to hide them. Every intervention based on what researchers read adds a little pressure toward concealment. He says OpenAI already sees chain-of-thought monitorability degrading as models get better at controlling their reasoning.
“we cannot supervise chain of thought because this is really a gift.” Noam Brown · at 1:09:20 — open in the transcript →
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