What did Bill Thompson tell Joe Rogan about Carl Jung and his dreams?

Bill Thompson said a YouTube video he watched while trying to learn chaos theory led him to Jordan Peterson and then to Carl Jung, whose books he read obsessively. He has documented his dreams ever since and believes they draw on lessons inherited over a very long time. He described a recent dream of a train full of hostile strangers and a fight he could only end by accepting his opponent's surrender, and he read it as a warning about a legal dispute that had dragged on for about two years. Joe Rogan said he does not dismiss dreams but distrusts anyone who claims to map them precisely.

• Thompson uses The Shawshank Redemption to argue that great stories retell an old death-and-rebirth pattern.
• Thompson reads the film Logan as a Jungian story about a hero integrating his anima before defeating his shadow.
• Rogan questioned how Jung could study the claim that people who set their lives in order dream less.

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“the train was a framework for the legal system” Bill Thompson · at 1:24:36 — open in the transcript →

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